Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
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ONCE BROKEN FAITH open thread!

To celebrate the release of Once Broken Faith, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book. Judging by the comments I'm seeing, some of you have had time, and I'd really, really rather book discussion (sometimes including spoilers) didn't crop up on other posts.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned. (I will not reply to every comment; I call partial comment amnesty. But I may well join some of the discussion, or answer questions or whatnot.) I will be DELETING all comments containing spoilers which have been left on other posts. No one gets to spoil people here without a label.

You can also start a discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence, since I always wind up getting involved in these things.

Have fun, and try not to bleed on the carpet.
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phoenix_singing

September 14 2016, 14:06:00 UTC 10 months ago

Well, given that we've seen Toby act like a living hope chest (changing Chelsea to a pureblood and Gillian to a full human, not to mention what she was able to do for the changelings of the Silences), shift her own blood under the influence of goblin fruit, and actually remove entire pieces of mixed-bloods' heritage (the false Queen and Rayseline). And that's as a changeling! Imagine what she could do as a pureblood - and there's foreshadowing that indicates she will eventually have to turn herself pureblood - and hell, imagine what Amandine could potentially do as a Firstborn. It's hard to blame her for being afraid of what she is; her race is actually quite frightening. It's no wonder that there are folks who don't want the Dochas Sidhe around (and they obviously don't, look what's going on with the few known to exist).

August's disappearance, Oberon and the Queens' disappearance, Amandine's absence, whether it's due to instability or whatever - I'm sure it's all connected, and I'd put money on Evening being heavily involved in like, all of it.

I love this series.

bree_ramsey314

September 14 2016, 16:42:04 UTC 10 months ago

You're right, Amandine can't be blamed for being afraid. I'm assuming she knows exactly what Oberon's intentions were in creating the Dochas Sidhe, and when he disappeared she was left to carry that burden alone. Unfortunately it appears she is ill suited to that task; she thought she could protect Toby by making her more human, but all she really did was make her terribly vulnerable, with absolutely no clue as to what she really is.

Evening is certainly at the center of it all. She can't harm Toby directly, but her power over the Daoine Sidhe gives her an army of minions she can use, including Sylvester. Imagine what would happen if she used her influence to convince him Toby had to be killed? Toby would be at a huge disadvantage based solely on the vast difference in their combat abilities, but the biggest issue would be having to face the man that's essentially been a second father to her. Quentin is Daoine Sidhe too, and there is absolutely no way Toby could harm him, not even to save her own life.

Really the best move for Toby is what she threatened to do, get back to where they left Evening with iron and silver and, to borrow a phrase from Heavy Metal, tear her into little bitsy pieces and bury her alive. But she won't do that, because she's a hero.