Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
Seanan McGuire
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ONCE BROKEN FAITH open thread!

To celebrate the release of Once Broken Faith, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book. Judging by the comments I'm seeing, some of you have had time, and I'd really, really rather book discussion (sometimes including spoilers) didn't crop up on other posts.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned. (I will not reply to every comment; I call partial comment amnesty. But I may well join some of the discussion, or answer questions or whatnot.) I will be DELETING all comments containing spoilers which have been left on other posts. No one gets to spoil people here without a label.

You can also start a discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence, since I always wind up getting involved in these things.

Have fun, and try not to bleed on the carpet.
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bree_ramsey314

September 7 2016, 05:37:12 UTC 10 months ago

Where to start? Oh, I know, I loved it! I adored the brief, unguarded glimpses we got of the Luidaeg's almost maternal fondness for Karen. That carried over into the novella, and the way she spoke to Cassie. Something fairly jumped out at me too, Arden's confusion when she saw Cassandra without her illusion. Is there something yet to be revealed about the Brown children's heritage, I wonder?

Things are changing, and I wonder if Toby realizes just how much they're likely to change. Until recently she's been a local affair, but now her name is known throughout the Westlands. I understand the political angle to offering Toronto as a location for the wedding, but I'm thinking there may be more to it than that, that perhaps Aethlin and Maida want to send a message that they approve of this union, and particularly October.

I loved the whole journey, from novel through novella, but I have to single out the part I loved absolutely the best. For the contest last month we were asked to name one thing we'd like to see in an upcoming Toby book. Mine was to see the rift between Toby and the Torquill's mended, and I'm delighted to see half that accomplished here. The other half, well, Sylvester was the easy part.

Oh, one last remark - Walther & Cassandra, ADORABLE.

jenfullmoon

September 9 2016, 13:57:05 UTC 10 months ago

The Luidaeg is very nice to children, if not royalty.

Toby is A Big Deal Around Here.

I'll be curious to see what drama goes on in Toronto around the wedding, in...however many books that is.

I'm glad she and Sylvester finally made up.

bree_ramsey314

September 12 2016, 19:15:48 UTC 10 months ago

My initial thoughts on the Luidaeg and Karen were pretty much as you say; the Luidaeg was really unhappy that someone, especially her sister, was picking on a child. I still think that's largely the case, but M Reed's theory dos add an interesting wrinkle. If the Brown kids do have some distant connection to the Roane, the Luidaeg would certainly know it, and it would understandably make her inclined to feel affection for them.

Yes, Toby is A Big Deal, but it's not just at home anymore. She's toppled the leadership of two kingdoms now, and the word is surely spreading that she has some influence with the High King and Queen. A lot of purebloods will likely scoff at that, but if they have the wedding in Toronto....? That will definitely get some people thinking.

I cried big, happy tears when Toby and Slyvester reconciled. She may be a hero by virtue of Oberon's blood, but everything she knows about being a hero, she learned from Sylvester.

jenfullmoon

September 12 2016, 20:42:20 UTC 10 months ago

I was just rereading the ending where the HK&Q were all, "Well, you've booted two monarchs out of office, were around when two other ones died, and you killed a Firstborn....we can't help but admit this looks suspicious after awhile, Ms. Kingbreaker. Hey, wanna have your wedding at our house?!"

LOL to all of that.

I don't think Toby could even deal with wedding stuff without Sylvester. I wonder how many books it'll take to get around to them getting married, and/or what murder mystery/missing persons case will break out in Toronto....

bree_ramsey314

September 13 2016, 01:05:04 UTC 10 months ago

All of that stuff is exactly why they made the offer, I believe. Aethlin and Maida have met Toby now, and I don't think they're concerned in the least about her ambitions. But they know others will be worried, so by blessing her marriage to Tybalt in such a public way, they're making a huge statement.

I suspect the wedding will happen sooner rather than later, but that could just be wishful thinking. Having her relationship with Sylvester restored will help Toby a lot, but I imagine her biggest support structure will be the rest of her family, particularly Stacy, May and Jazz. And who knows, maybe once Rayseline is awakened she'll be part of that too, along with Luna. I really hope so.