Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
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CHAOS CHOREOGRAPHY open thread!

To celebrate the release of Chaos Choreography, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book. Judging by the comments I'm seeing, some of you have had time, and I'd really, really rather book discussion (sometimes including spoilers) didn't crop up on other posts.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned. (I will not reply to every comment; I call partial comment amnesty. But I may well join some of the discussion, or answer questions or whatnot.) I will be DELETING all comments containing spoilers which have been left on other posts. No one gets to spoil people here without a label.

You can also start a discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence, since I always wind up getting involved in these things.

Have fun, and try not to bleed on the carpet.
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I think, maybe, that much of what Verity and the rest interpret as instability, and perhaps a less than complete hold on sanity, is simply a generation gap, of sorts. All they know of Fran is stories, so they can't see just how much like her mother Alice is. Fran was always in favor of the direct, guns a-blazing and knives a-flying approach to solving problems, and that's something Alice seems to share.

Then there's the fact that she's spent much of the last few decades, not out of touch with reality, but rather in touch with a much different, darker reality. Also I'd imagine that what Verity and her siblings feel about Alice has to have been influenced greatly by Kevin, who has ample reason to feel some serious resentment towards his mother. Even with that influence, however, it's clear that Verity loves Alice very much.

Your last comment is very tantalizing. This would be an excellent time for Thomas to reappear, wouldn't it? His knowledge of the Covenant is many decades out of date, but in this case I don't see that as being a big issue, as the Covenant seems to be very set in its ways. The technology they employ may have changed but the basic tactics haven't, which is ultimately why they'll lose. The Price family, and the cryptids they work to protect, know nature's most basic rule quite well ... the inability to adapt leads to only one end, extinction.
And whether it's time dilation or whatever, they've seen Alice failing to find Thomas for their whole lives. It'd be hard not to draw the conclusion that he's just gone.

I wonder a little bit about framing with a war with the Covenant. I mean, okay, we're kind of dealing the Verity's framing at the moment... but a substantial part of the family history has been about winning members of the Covenant over. If there's any way to re-frame things as a less adversarial issue... hell, there have been times when the Covenant has done a fair bit of good (and been a fairly good organization to be a member of.) I don't see this as turning into puppy and rainbow land, but... there just aren't enough Prices for a Price / Covenant war to make sense. They have a lot of allies, but then, there are plenty of Cryptids who'd be happy to see the Prices and the Covenant all dead, just to make sure. They can go underground again, but that doesn't seem like the most viable long term strategy at this point.
I think what transpired in Midnight Blue-Light Special made it pretty clear the Covenant isn't interested in a less adversarial relationship with the Price family. It's true, there are plenty of Cryptids that would be glad to see the Price clan dead, the majority of the Cryptid community in fact, but they have never met them. Malena is a prime example; when she found out who Verity was, she was initially hostile, but like most who have gotten to know her, she came around. I'm confident that, if the Covenant does choose to ignore Verity's warning (And let's be honest, does anyone really think they are going to stay away?) that there will be plenty of Cryptids who will stand by the Price family. As you say, going underground isn't a viable long term strategy for the Cryptids at this point, so they really have a vested interest in keeping Verity and her family alive.