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INDEXING: REFLECTIONS episode #4, "Split Ends."

The fourth episode of Indexing: Reflections is available now! This is your talkpost and discussion zone. There will be spoilers in the comments here. As always on talkposts, I have partial comment amnesty, and will not be responding to everything.

"Split Ends" is where we really start rolling into the central plot of this season, and when we start to get a better look at the workings of the whiteout wood. Always Henry's favorite thing.

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Woo hoo! I love it! So many juicy plot details! A Rapunzel! A honeycrisp apple! Woods between the worlds!
My first reaction at the end of the episode was simply: "Craaaaaaaaap."

I'm wondering what that Rapunzel did to end up in Childe... I'm also wondering if Childe is still going to be standing after this, or if the Bureau is going to adopt Sloane's "shoot 'em all and let Grimm sort 'em out" mentality.
You need a place to keep Actives while you're evaluating them, or you won't have any Actives on your field teams, and we've seem how badly the field teams need Actives. But I'm dubious about Childe as a long-term prison: it may be more practical *and* more merciful to simply shoot the people you can't recruit and be done with it.

Sloane is an Evil Stepsister; she has it mostly under control, but the role suits her nature. She's likely to be nastier than perfect pragmatism in a complicated kill/ brainwash/ imprison/ recruit/ watch dilemma. This doesn't mean she might not be closer to correct than the Bureau's current policy.

Laura Carr

September 24 2015, 22:20:31 UTC 1 year ago Edited:  September 24 2015, 22:21:23 UTC

I have a crazy idea. How sure, absolutely positive no doubts about it, is Henry that her mom is dead? She only has the bureau's word her mom was a Sleeping Beauty that died. I mean it's not like the bureau has ever kept info from the team before, right?
There hasn't been the slightest indication that Henry questions the story, so I would say she's really absolutely positive no doubts about it her mother died. That doesn't mean it's true, just that she believes it.
I should perhaps have worded it differently. How is it Henry's that sure etc etc.

I just found it striking her only thought was a missing baby.
With a lot of the Princesses, sadly, if they can't be averted, they wind up imprisoned. They're too much of a focus to be left in the wild.

bree_ramsey314

September 22 2015, 21:21:54 UTC 1 year ago Edited:  September 22 2015, 21:22:37 UTC

How could you leave us hanging like this? Wicked, cruel, naughty Seanan!

Whew! Okay, I feel better now, a little more in control. So, I'm guessing Adrianna is back -- I know, my powers of deductive reasoning are astounding. Henry should have been expecting this, I mean Adrianna has probably been skulking around the wood, just waiting for another shot at her. Will she succeed this time, and use Henry as a doorway back to reality? I can see that happening, but I seriously doubt she's going to be able to fool Jeff and Sloane -- especially Sloane.

Favorite line in this chapter: "If you even ask, I will rip your ear lobes off."

Absolutely loved it, can't wait for more ... but you're still wicked, cruel and naughty!
You've broken me, and it's only the fourth episode. It's not so much Henry as it is Sloane; Henry already had to make her choice, but poor Sloane, oh, my heart breaks for her.
I can be a little slow sometimes, so if this is old news, please forgive me. I was just doing some internet searching and I stumbled across this interesting fact: Marchen, or Märchen, is German for fairy tale. Was this mentioned in the first book and I missed it? Or is it an Easter Egg left for us to find? (Me last of all, probably) Anyway, I thought it was cool.
Easter egg?

I think it came up in LJ discussion last time, but I don't think it was specifically called out in the story.
Easter Egg - a hidden message, feature ... whatever. Usually it's applied to digital media, especially video games, but authors were hiding things in their work long before the digital age.
I think it's mentioned that because Henri's parents are unknown (thanks to her mother being a Jane Doe Sleeping Beauty), she and Gerry got Marchen as their surname when they were adopted. Gerry changed his to March, presumably when he was adjusting his legal first name.
It's mentioned in the first book. Demi brings it up while she's still convinced that the entire thing is some elaborate prank : "How do you people expect me to believe that this isn’t a big prank when you’re literally named ‘Agent Fairy Tale’?”
That is one of my favorite one-liners in the series.
Thank you, I had totally forgotten that part. Going back and reading it again, I remember giggling at it the first time around. In hindsight it also shows that Demi has a pretty wide knowledge base.
Now I'm properly worried for all of them. They've split the team (never split the team!) and Henry is in the whiteout wood. And the whiteout wood protects itself? Of course it does. Silly me. It's like I've never read a fairy tale before. ;)
Oh, man, this is SO GOOD. I mean, I loved all the little seemingly "one-off" stories of the first book before it really got going, and I loved the opening stories of this one... but now that you're revving up those 2 week intervals are gonna be HARD!

Thanks for sharing your wonderful creativity and delightful evilness with us. :)
And seeing those one-off stories come back to seriously *bite* the team.

Sorta "You thought the story was over... hah hah hah..."

marziek

September 30 2015, 13:02:46 UTC 1 year ago Edited:  September 30 2015, 13:03:02 UTC

I'm enjoying this series so much. I look forward to each update. Maybe it's the familiar comfort of a second book, but I'm enjoying this one even more than the first. The whole thing is such an inventive idea. I've been discussing with a friend the idea of influencing the world by interacting with it (she asked that question I sent you) and how storytelling (in any form) is almost like the equivalent of the quantum observer effect.