Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
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A RED-ROSE CHAIN open thread!

To celebrate the release of A Red-Rose Chain, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book. Judging by the comments I'm seeing, some of you have had time, and I'd really, really rather book discussion (sometimes including spoilers) didn't crop up on other posts.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned. (I will not reply to every comment; I call partial comment amnesty. But I may well join some of the discussion, or answer questions or whatnot.) I will be DELETING all comments containing spoilers which have been left on other posts. No one gets to spoil people here without a label.

You can also start a discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence, since I always wind up getting involved in these things.

Have fun, and try not to bleed on the carpet.
Tags: a red-rose chain, discussion post, toby daye
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Oberon apparently had children with other pureblood fae. I think that in the thread on Faerie descent, our esteemed hostess mentioned that Firstborn is Firstborn regardless of the other parentage; I'm not sure that Oberon could even *have* a changeling. (Call it dominant genes.)
I finally figured it out, I think. Heaven knows that Seannan's totally surprised me before, but many clues point to Evening Wintersong as Amandine's mother.
1) The Ludieag said that Amandine's mother was not Titania or Maeve
2) The answer to Toby's question "Is that, 'you can't say' or 'you won't say' " was "Can't, can't, ALWAYS can't" , and we KNOW Evening had her geased to not be able to say things.
3). "When I thought I was dione sidh I never questioned that [Evening's] magic and my mother's both smelled of roses"
4). I'm still wanting to look further on this, but it has also been said that there's a hereditary component to the smells of magic that Toby detects. If Oberon (blood) magic had a child with his daughter, the "Blood" component would be strengthened. (Is Toby's 'copper' smell really blood, but fainter? It ought to be, and she does describe blood as tasting "metalic")