Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
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A RED-ROSE CHAIN open thread!

To celebrate the release of A Red-Rose Chain, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book. Judging by the comments I'm seeing, some of you have had time, and I'd really, really rather book discussion (sometimes including spoilers) didn't crop up on other posts.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned. (I will not reply to every comment; I call partial comment amnesty. But I may well join some of the discussion, or answer questions or whatnot.) I will be DELETING all comments containing spoilers which have been left on other posts. No one gets to spoil people here without a label.

You can also start a discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence, since I always wind up getting involved in these things.

Have fun, and try not to bleed on the carpet.
Tags: a red-rose chain, discussion post, toby daye
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Yeah, you cot me with Rhys and Queen Crazy. I'm sure Toby wouldn't mind one bit if they locked them in a room and then totally forgot where they put the key ... and the room. I think you're overestimating what a geas is capable of, however. As I recall from my years of D&D, the conditions have to be pretty specifically spelled out when the spell is cast, so unless Eira included "if I'm ever elfshot and dumped in a forgotten corner of Faerie, come find me," I don't think Simon will be looking for her.

Now, mind you, I'm not even suggesting that Toby is ever going to forgive him, trust him, or even like him, but I believe he showed in The Winter Long that, in his own twisted way, he did try to protect her. As for Raysel, like I've said, I really hope that Toby shifting her blood has fixed her, and I hope that can help bring back the Luna we grew to love. For me, meeting Ceres was so bittersweet, because I too was reminded of that Luna. I want her back.

As for the wisdom of Toby not going back to finish Evening, I'll borrow a line from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Toby's a hero, she's not like us. (Season 5 'The Gift.' Giles to Ben ... just before he kills him.)

Regretfully, I don't think we can ever get old Luna back. I suspect that all those years with her parents, plus the years she lostwhen Simon kidnapped her and Raysel have really worked a number on Luna. Ceres left before Blimlnd Michael's land went completely wonky. Luna didn't. It's also pretty clear that there is A LOT of mental instability in their family. Mental instability is frequently hereditary in humans and it seems pretty clear that that is true in fae as well. I suuspect that what sanity Luna had came primarily from Hoshibara and Hoshibara is completely gone since Raysel poisoned Luna.