Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
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A RED-ROSE CHAIN open thread!

To celebrate the release of A Red-Rose Chain, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book. Judging by the comments I'm seeing, some of you have had time, and I'd really, really rather book discussion (sometimes including spoilers) didn't crop up on other posts.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned. (I will not reply to every comment; I call partial comment amnesty. But I may well join some of the discussion, or answer questions or whatnot.) I will be DELETING all comments containing spoilers which have been left on other posts. No one gets to spoil people here without a label.

You can also start a discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence, since I always wind up getting involved in these things.

Have fun, and try not to bleed on the carpet.
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Lots of fun stuff here. (I loved this book!) No sane monarch outside the Mists is ever going to let Toby through their gates ever, ever again. And if Arden's neighbors start misbehaving, now all she has to do is threaten to send Toby to do diplomacy at them.

Unless someone steals his body, Arden's brother Prince Nolan should definitely be awake in the next book. I could see everyone deciding to let Rayseline sleep on, but Simon stands a good shot of being awoken. The Simon/Toby relationship was my favorite part of The Winter Long, so I'm really hoping he wakes up soon.

I was surprised that Eira's magic didn't smell like a literal winter rose.

I was also surprised at how sane Ceres seemed. I'd been assuming that Luna's craziness came in large part from being a mixture of Maeve and Titania, especially since Rayseline's Blodynbryd-self (during her Choice) seemed like such a psycho.

One thing confused me: in The Winter Long, the Luidaeg tells Toby, "My father denied [Eira]. And her mother bound me. I was forbidden to spread lies—literally forbidden." But here, Toby says the Luidaeg's "tone of voice was one of the few deceptions she had left, thanks to her big sister geasing her to always tell the truth." Slip up, is Toby misremembering, or does the first part somehow not mean "Titania bound me and forbade me to spread lies"?

In regards to no sane momarch letting Toby imto their kingdom, I am pretty sure that Tobes is well on her way to adding "King-Breaker" to her list of actual real titles.