Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
Seanan McGuire
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A RED-ROSE CHAIN open thread!

To celebrate the release of A Red-Rose Chain, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book. Judging by the comments I'm seeing, some of you have had time, and I'd really, really rather book discussion (sometimes including spoilers) didn't crop up on other posts.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned. (I will not reply to every comment; I call partial comment amnesty. But I may well join some of the discussion, or answer questions or whatnot.) I will be DELETING all comments containing spoilers which have been left on other posts. No one gets to spoil people here without a label.

You can also start a discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence, since I always wind up getting involved in these things.

Have fun, and try not to bleed on the carpet.
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bree_ramsey314

September 3 2015, 16:08:13 UTC 1 year ago Edited:  September 3 2015, 16:09:40 UTC

Hmmm. Well, looking back at what Evening did at Shadowed Hills, I think not. If the False Queen (or Queen Crazy, as I like to call her) had that kind of power, she wouldn't have needed her siren's song to stop Arden and her allies in their tracks. She would have had them assisting her willingly, and with full control of their faculties, rather than robots she had to command.

That said, your comment does get the wheels turning in my head. Not Evening ... but perhaps her child? Evening was one of those who supported her claim on the throne, after all.

jenfullmoon

September 3 2015, 19:53:41 UTC 1 year ago

I was just thinking that Eira would be a powerful ally to have on one's side when you take over a kingdom, so that sounded like a reasonable person for her to make that kind of deal with.

bree_ramsey314

September 3 2015, 20:11:10 UTC 1 year ago

Eira clearly has plans that are much bigger than the Mists or Silences. She's after Quentin too, don't forget.

rymenhild

September 4 2015, 00:33:43 UTC 1 year ago

I think the false Queen works for Eira, and has been trying to destroy Toby on Eira's behalf. When Toby was changing the Queen's blood, she heard the Queen's mind saying something like "She'll kill me." I think "she" is Eira.

bree_ramsey314

September 4 2015, 00:44:56 UTC 1 year ago Edited:  September 4 2015, 00:50:33 UTC

Yeah, I thought that too (clarification: I thought that after I read The Winter Long. At the time of Chimes at Midnight, I had no clue Evening was still alive.), and I really wanted to smack Toby across the back of her head there. "She's about to reveal the whole evil plan, this is no time to be concerned about her privacy!"

ancelinegrey

September 30 2015, 13:20:57 UTC 1 year ago

Also, the false Queen had to have some people back her to take the throne after the earthquake when Gilad was murdered. At the time no one knew that Evening was Eira and Evening was relatalively well respected, even without her crazy First powers. If she was backing the false Queen, that is probably part of why the false Queen's legitimacy was never questioned. I think I remember Toby mentioning that Evening supported the false Queen way back around the time of A Local Habitation.