Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
Seanan McGuire
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THE WINTER LONG open thread!

To celebrate the release of The Winter Long, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book. Judging by the comments I'm seeing, some of you have had time, and I'd really, really rather book discussion (sometimes including spoilers) didn't crop up on other posts.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned. (I will not reply to every comment; I call partial comment amnesty. But I may well join some of the discussion, or answer questions or whatnot.) I will be DELETING all comments containing spoilers which have been left on other posts. No one gets to spoil people here without a label.

You can also start a discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence, since I always wind up getting involved in these things.

Have fun, and try not to bleed on the carpet.
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rymenhild

September 4 2014, 00:45:43 UTC 2 years ago

Janet ... the Luidaeg said, in those words, that Toby could find interesting truths and lies about her mother now that she wears gold in her hair.

I forbid ye, ladies all, that wear gold in your hair
To travel down to Carterhaugh now young Tam Lin is there.

We know from Artificial Night that there's a truth under the Tam Lin story.

I bet you are on to something.

professor

September 6 2014, 10:03:24 UTC 2 years ago Edited:  September 6 2014, 10:10:15 UTC

I agree. I'm doing a reread of all the books after reading The Winter Long. In One Salt Sea, Mary the Roane says about October: "Line of thieves, hers is, and they'd rob even royalty blind." Fair Janet has to be the greatest thief Faerie has ever known, given that by stealing back her lover, she functionally stole/broke the power of all the Three, since they've been missing since then.

Also, Simon said in this book that Amandine was born in Scotland and used to have a faint Scottish accent. Tam Lin is a traditional Scottish ballad.

jenfullmoon

September 6 2014, 15:46:51 UTC 2 years ago

Oooh, good point.

rymenhild

September 6 2014, 20:13:42 UTC 2 years ago

I've been thinking about it, and I think it's possible that Janet isn't Amandine's mother, but Amandine's grandmother. Janet is pregnant with Thomas's child when she pulls Thomas off of the white horse. Is Janet likely to have a child by Oberon as well? Maybe not. But Janet's child by Thomas could grow up to bear Amandine to Oberon, couldn't she? Much depends on exactly what happened when Janet broke Maeve's Ride. Did the Three all disappear right then, or was there some lag time?

But that bit about the line of thieves is very, very interesting.

brightlotusmoon

September 13 2014, 23:05:37 UTC 2 years ago

*leans forward, eyes wide* Ooooooh.