Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
Seanan McGuire
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THE WINTER LONG open thread!

To celebrate the release of The Winter Long, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book. Judging by the comments I'm seeing, some of you have had time, and I'd really, really rather book discussion (sometimes including spoilers) didn't crop up on other posts.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned. (I will not reply to every comment; I call partial comment amnesty. But I may well join some of the discussion, or answer questions or whatnot.) I will be DELETING all comments containing spoilers which have been left on other posts. No one gets to spoil people here without a label.

You can also start a discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence, since I always wind up getting involved in these things.

Have fun, and try not to bleed on the carpet.
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anjali6

September 5 2014, 19:43:47 UTC 2 years ago

Hey Seanan, thanks for another great book. read it twice now and can i just say the more i read the toby daye series, the more convinced i am that the Luideag is based on you. She is too awesome.

and has anyone else besides me noticed something off about "Marcia" in Goldengreen. when evening flung that spell about and everyone almost drowned, it was Marcia who was left standing and helping Dean. it was also Marcia who appeared as if she already knew about Arden being the princess in "chimes at midnight". Also hopefully we will get to meet more firstborns soon as this war heats up.

thanks again for the wonderful book ....given me an excuse to re read the series from the start.

purlgurly

September 5 2014, 21:55:02 UTC 2 years ago

Crazy theory - could Marcia be August with a *seriously* altered balance of blood? If Amandine's mother was mortal, August could have had up to 1/4 mortal blood...

angelamaria

September 6 2014, 03:23:13 UTC 2 years ago

That made me wonder if one's offspring would have your original fae blood ratio, or your current fae blood ratio! But from what's been said, I think it takes the current blood ratio in that scenario. Because if it takes birth blood ratio and Amandine's mother is mortal, that would make Amandine 50% mortal, and Toby 25% mortal--but obviously Amandine still needed to jigger her blood around, plus we've had other characters comment on how much Amandine has changed in Toby/how she is NOW (way past half) much closer to her original blood ratio. So it seems clear she wasn't born only quarter fae.

(Of course, maybe a Firstborn's blood is just so much more potent than ordinary fae blood, and would result in offspring with stronger fae blood than mortal blood otherwise.)

Marcia is really, really confusing me at this point. For one thing, I agree it seems like she knows Arden, but if she was the same then as she is now (i.e. having very weak fae blood) then she'd be really, really old? Visibly old? I mean, yeah, her fae blood would slow down her aging somewhat, but we have Karen's parents as examples of changelings with different blood ratios visibly aging at a different rate. I think Marcia would have to look middle-aged at least, and I don't actually remember exactly how she looks like (drat--this is the problem with ebooks, can't flip to sections quickly) but she doesn't sound middle-aged.

CONFUSED. MUST RE-READ.

I did wonder, though, at first, if Marcia was Eira in disguise, just with some pretty intricate magic+shapeshifting (i.e. like the Luidaeg). But then I find it hard to believe Toby would be completely oblivious to that level of shapeshifting (especially as she does make note of it with the Luidaeg)--not with her set of skills.

lazzchan

September 7 2014, 11:59:49 UTC 2 years ago

Oh man, that theory... but O.o huuuuuh. She'd have some serious skills and altered memories, too-- I would think. Or else she's playing her own long con. I'm still suspicious about Marcia in SO MANY WAYS, especially how she was reacting in Chimes at Midnight.

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