Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
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THE WINTER LONG open thread!

To celebrate the release of The Winter Long, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book. Judging by the comments I'm seeing, some of you have had time, and I'd really, really rather book discussion (sometimes including spoilers) didn't crop up on other posts.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned. (I will not reply to every comment; I call partial comment amnesty. But I may well join some of the discussion, or answer questions or whatnot.) I will be DELETING all comments containing spoilers which have been left on other posts. No one gets to spoil people here without a label.

You can also start a discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence, since I always wind up getting involved in these things.

Have fun, and try not to bleed on the carpet.
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I wonder about the Blind Michael connection, too.

For one thing, Amandine being as beautiful as she is and Toby being told that she is as beautiful/looks like Amandine (even though she herself says she is not) and Blind Michael wanting to replace his lady wife with Toby (and Toby being a bit more human then than now), makes me think that if August did end up in Blind Michael's land, I'm pretty sure that he might have tried to replace his wife with August. Obviously, he did not, or was not successful, or August did not stay in Blind Michael's land. I'm also wondering if the candles can also be used for other paths and other lands; I'm not too well versed in the original mythology of this, so please forgive if I am terribly mistaken ;)

If he DID try to replace his wife, then August would likely be dead. Or transformed into one of the trees, or something. That would be interesting too...Luna's parents being responsible for Toby's sister's death :/
Assuming she was transformed, it's possible that the change wouldn't last.

Simon expected October to break his transformation. If August was transformed by Blind Michael, the major difference would be that August had been altered by a Firstborn in his home territory.

Without Blind Michael to reinforce the change, perhaps a Dochas Sidhe could break out of one of his transformations.
That's a good point. Maybe it's enough that August is pureblooded fae to counter the fact that Blind Michael is Firstborn; after all, Toby was less than half fae at the time (?) and she was able to counter Simon's spell in 14 years. Maybe it will take another 14 years, or maybe not? Do we know what happened to the children after Blind Michael died? (Ugh, I really need to reread. And look up Tam Lin.)
I'm hoping it won't take another 14 years; that would be another seven books, at least. :)