Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
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THE WINTER LONG open thread!

To celebrate the release of The Winter Long, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book. Judging by the comments I'm seeing, some of you have had time, and I'd really, really rather book discussion (sometimes including spoilers) didn't crop up on other posts.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned. (I will not reply to every comment; I call partial comment amnesty. But I may well join some of the discussion, or answer questions or whatnot.) I will be DELETING all comments containing spoilers which have been left on other posts. No one gets to spoil people here without a label.

You can also start a discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence, since I always wind up getting involved in these things.

Have fun, and try not to bleed on the carpet.
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I think Evening expected Toby to find it.

From the novella "Through This House," we learned (spoilers for that story in ROT13) gung gur Jvagreebfr qvqa'g bcra Tbyqraterra. Nznaqvar qvq, jvgu gur uryc bs n snr jbzna jub znl be znl abg unir orra Frcgrzore Gbedhvyy.

We have also learned (references to Chimes and Winter, detailed speculation) gung gur ubcr purfg vf anzrq Tbyqraterra. Gur xrl gung svaqf gur ubcr purfg vf n xrl gb gur fhzzre ebnqf gung vf nffbpvngrq va fbzr jnl jvgu Znrir; gur Yhvqnrt hfrf vg gb pnyy ba ure.

Fb jung jnf gur Jvagreebfr qbvat va n xabjr gung jnf bcrarq ol Nznaqvar? Jung jnf gur Jvagreebfr qbvat jvgu n ubcr purfg gung funerq vgf anzr jvgu gung xabjr -- znlor rira tnir vgf anzr gb gung xabjr? Jung jnf gur Jvagreebfr, ryqrfg qnhtugre bs Gvgnavn, qbvat jvgu n xrl pbaarpgrq gb Znrir?

V fhozvg gung gur ubcr purfg naq xrl jrer nyjnlf va Tbyqraterra, fvapr vgf sbhaqvat; gung Nznaqvar uvq gur purfg jvgu gur uryc bs gur xrl, gung gur Jvagreebfr pbhyq abg hfr; naq gung gur Jvagreebfr unq ab evtug gb gur purfg. Ohg Gbol, Nznaqvar'f qnhtugre, qvq. Ol grzcgvat Qriva jvgu gur ubcr purfg naq ratvarrevat ure nggnpx, naq ol phefvat Gbol gb fbyir gur zlfgrel, gur Jvagreebfr tbg Gbol gb svaq naq oevat bhg gur ubcr purfg sebz vgf uvqvat cynpr. Vg jbhyq cerfhznoyl or npprffvoyr gb gur Jvagreebfr sebz gung cbvag ba.
One flaw with this hypothesis: It's clearly stated in Chimes at Midnight that Goldengreen was given to Eira Rosynhwyr for safekeeping.
Safe, yes, but from whom? Because in that (awesome) scenario, it would have been pretty safe from Eira herself.