THE WINTER LONG open thread!: seanan

THE WINTER LONG open thread!

To celebrate the release of The Winter Long, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book. Judging by the comments I'm seeing, some of you have had time, and I'd really, really rather book discussion (sometimes including spoilers) didn't crop up on other posts.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned. (I will not reply to every comment; I call partial comment amnesty. But I may well join some of the discussion, or answer questions or whatnot.) I will be DELETING all comments containing spoilers which have been left on other posts. No one gets to spoil people here without a label.

You can also start a discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence, since I always wind up getting involved in these things.

Have fun, and try not to bleed on the carpet.

jenk

September 3 2014, 00:56:53 UTC 2 years ago Edited: September 3 2014, 00:57:23 UTC

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Been thinking about how, when we first met Toby, she had very little family. She had her mom, who isn't really "there", and her late father.

Over time we've discovered no, Toby has a LOT more relatives. She just didn't know they were relatives. Luna's her cousin, Acacia & The Luidaeg are her aunts, Blind Michael was an uncle (eew)....and now we have Stepfather Simon, Uncle Sylvester, and Auntie Evening. There's a lot of history there, such as Toby's changing relationship with Luna and Sylvester.

Then contrast that with Toby's chosen family: May, Tybalt, Quentin, Raj, Jazz.

Very well done.

crewgrrl

September 3 2014, 12:59:29 UTC 2 years ago

I find it interesting that as she finds out the family she though was acting as figureheads were legally related to her in certain ways, they become colder to her. The only person who gets closer to her because the knowledge of their deeper relationship is revealed is the Luideag.

jenfullmoon

September 4 2014, 00:40:33 UTC 2 years ago

Oooh, deep.

I wonder if Sylvester might want to let Toby go to Arden instead of him after this book :/

rymenhild

September 4 2014, 00:43:16 UTC 2 years ago

I think he still loves her, but not in a very useful way.

angelamaria

September 4 2014, 02:37:13 UTC 2 years ago

I was actually wondering (after that "sorry" scene) if Toby would, on her own volition, ask to be released from Sylvester and become Arden's knight. Although whether Arden will have the occasion to accept her fealty is a question -- I am sure she would want to, but I don't know if there are any legal/customary barriers for that.

It would be pretty interesting though. The queen who grew up outside of fae having a changeling knight who has an infamous disregard for traditions and formality. Hee.

ALTHOUGH at some point I wonder if October will then become Quentin's knight. When he becomes King. That would be a LOT interesting, lol.

kveberle

September 4 2014, 19:40:17 UTC 2 years ago

I worry that he wants to hold on to her for a specific reason...it just seems that the Torquills are perfectly happy to use her whenever they can.

September 4 2014, 04:09:50 UTC 2 years ago

Yes. I also note that she says in The Winter Long that she still loves Sylvester, she's just very hurt by him right now. I know I've got through that with family.