Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
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HALF-OFF RAGNAROK open thread!

To celebrate the release of Half-Off Ragnarok, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book. Judging by the comments I'm seeing, some of you've have had time, while others received review copies.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned. (I will not reply to every comment; I call partial comment amnesty. But I may well join some of the discussion, or answer questions or whatnot.) I will be DELETING all comments containing spoilers which have been left on other posts. No one gets to spoil people here without a label.

You can also start a discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence, since I always wind up getting involved in these things.

Have fun, and try not to bleed on the carpet.
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Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I finished last night. I want a Church Griffon too. Wish the mice had been featured a little more heavily but c'est la vie.

Does anyone else REALLY wanna know why Alice burned her father's papers after he died???? Because after reading about Jonathan and Frances Healy, I'm dying to know what happened there.

SHELBY. RODE. A FUCKING LINDWORM.

Honestly though, I was really disappointed that Seanan used the "villain is deformed/disabled" trope. Come on, Seanan, you're better than that.

More coherent review will go up on my LJ tonight or tomorrow.
I felt that, looking into the whole family dynamic and just how awful his situation was, she also somewhat subverted it. He wasn't in the end much of a villain - it was all just really awful.
You're right: I am better than that, and I am so very sorry. I wasn't thinking in terms of "the villain is disabled," just "the villain is non-standard for his non-human species," which is not the same thing. I should have realized how that would read, and I apologize unreservedly.
And you're still pretty awesome. This is how you take criticism.
I wonder if Alice and Thomas are going to be the next series of short stories after Jonathan and Frances finish up. I am nervous about that one. I do enjoy how the men of the family get quotes in this one, though.

Loved the riding the lindworm. Hah.

I admit I wasn't clear on how Lloyd was disabled until the very end. I just kept thinking, "Hey, he seems intelligent and functional, what's the problem, that he has short snakes?" When I hear that someone has a deformed child, I assume it's uh, much more severe than that.
Does anyone else REALLY wanna know why Alice burned her father's papers after he died????

My guess, based on picking up bits of Healy family history, is that the papers were incidental; the real point was making it look like everybody else was in the house when it burned, so the Covenant would go away and stop bothering them.

I haven't had the chance to go back and see if there's anything in the first two books to support this. Based on the family tree, the timing looks right, but that's all I have.
Oh gosh, yes. I really really want to know and I want Alice's story as well and GUH.