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Existence is its own justification.

The ongoing discussion about diversity in fiction is, well, ongoing; that's sort of what ongoing discussions do. (Also, I have been neck-deep in edits for the past month, so the fact that I used "ongoing" three times in the prior sentence feels deliciously naughty.) On the one side, you have people saying "representation matters." On the other side, you have people saying that the urge for diversity in fiction is "selfie culture" (and somehow that's bad?), and that fiction should show us new things, not just be "a representative of the self," and that it's "jarring" when they encounter "minority characters" who don't somehow fit a list of cultural and social ticky-boxes that would justify those characters existing as anything other than straight, white, male. "Cis" doesn't even need to be spoken. There's no way a trans* character could exist for any reason other than to talk about their genitals, and that would be the ultimate in jarring, thanks.

And people wonder why I spend so much time wanting to set the world on fire.

I think it's very telling that the people who say it's wrong to want representation in fiction are almost overwhelmingly white. If I want to read about white people having amazing adventures and doing incredible things, being heroes and villains, simple and complicated, handsome and hideous, loved and hated, all I need to do is pick up a book at random. There is a literally 90% chance that I will get all those things from whatever book I've chosen, especially if I'm going for the "classic literature" of the science fiction/fantasy/horror world. 90%! And that may honestly be low-balling the number! If I were a straight white man, of course I wouldn't see any issue with representation in fiction—I'd be on every page I turned! Even as a straight white woman, I'd be on a lot of pages, even if half those pages would have me either naked or screaming (or both, if I had happened to grab a Gor book). There's no problem with representation here!

But I've never been a straight white man. I've never been a straight white girl, either. I was a bisexual kid with a lot of questions and not very many answers, and it wasn't until I encountered ElfQuest that I actually felt like I saw myself on a page. No, I didn't think I was an elf, although I sort of wished I was, because elves are awesome, but it was Cutter and Leetah and the rest who introduced me to the idea that I could love boys and girls, and not be a bad person. I wasn't indecisive or wicked. I just had a lot of love to give, and my set of criteria for who got it wasn't based on gender.

Let me restate that: I was already bi. I had already been attracted to girls, guys, and a kid in my class who went by "Pup" and refused to be pinned down to either gender (and my second grade teacher never forced Pup to commit either way, which was pretty damn cool of her, given that this was the 1980s). Books did not make me choose my sexuality; books told me a) that my sexuality existed, and b) that it was okay, it was natural, it was not proof that there was something wrong with me. And especially in grade school/middle school, sexuality is invisible in a way that very little else is. No one knew I was queer until I came out. It wasn't even a matter of openly hiding it; sex wasn't on the table, I didn't feel like sharing, I didn't share. No one knew that I was different. Everyone thought that when they read their books about little white girls having adventures, they were reading about me, too.

You know what's not invisible? Race. "I don't see race" is bull. When we read those books about little white kids having amazing adventures, we knew that it was white kids having adventures, because adventures are for white people. At the age of eight, we all understood that our non-white classmates were not represented in the books we read, and very few of us had the sophistication to jump to "this is a lack of representation." Instead, we jumped to "I guess Oz doesn't like black people." Because books shape your view of the world, books remake you in their image, and the books we had said little white kids go on adventures, little kids of any other race are nowhere to be seen.

This is a problem.

So some of us grew up, and for whatever reason—maybe it affected us directly, maybe it affected our friends, maybe it was just pointed out—we started trying to show a world that looked more like the world we actually lived in, where everything wasn't a monoculture. And for some reason, this is being taken as a threat. How dare you want little Asian kids to go on adventures. How dare you want queer teenagers to save the world. How dare you imply that transwomen can be perfectly ordinary, perfectly competent people who just want to not get eaten by the dinosaur that's been eating everyone else. That's selfie culture, that's diversity for the sake of diversity, that's wrong. And after a great deal of consideration, I have come to this conclusion:

If that's what you think, you can go fuck yourself.

That's not politic, and it's not nice, and it may cause a couple of people to go "what a bitch, I'm done," but I don't fucking care. Because I am tired of people needing to thank me for making an effort. I am tired of receiving email that says it was distracting when so-and-so turned out to be gay, or asking why I have Indian characters in three separate series (and the fact that having an Indian woman show up and never speak a line is apparently enough to put Indexing on the same level as Blackout for some people just makes me weep for humanity). I am tired of "oh you feel like you're so open-minded" because I write about gay people, bi people, poly people, people who are exactly like the people that I know. I want to be unremarkable for my casting choices, and only remarkable for my characters being awesome (because let's face it, my characters are awesome).

A lack of representation in fiction leads to a lack of self-esteem, because selfie culture is important: we need to see ourselves, and the people who keep trying to dismiss that as somehow selfish or greedy or narcissistic are the ones who've had a mirror held up to them for so long that they don't even see it anymore. White becomes so generic, so default, that it's not mentioned when describing a character ("blonde hair, blue eyes" vs. "oh, she's black, of course, that's the biggest thing"). Humanity is huge and diverse and amazing, and saying that only a small, approved sliver of it belongs in fiction is a dick move. If diversity is distracting, it's because it's so rare.

We can fix that.
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As an aspirant/hesitant would-be author (and fit white cis het American male), I want to do this well, but I also don't want to step on toes with my ignorance. I'm Scalzi's Lowest Privilege Difficulty Stetting with a really sweet homebrew alternate-clothing skin, and I'm aware that I'm not well-equipped to speak for less-privileged others beyond the realization that I'm ill-equipped to speak for marginalized others.

I have this worry that doing representation badly is worse than not at all, and I'm probably wrong about that, but I don't want to be presumptive or mansplainy... basically, I want to be a good ally in the representation mines, not a self-centered fuckup distracting from (or, worse, adding to) the problems that exist.

Which, as much as anything, is why I write about sapient robots and hummingbird-sized dragons and a sadistic cybernetic squid-thing who prefers to chill on the ceiling. I want my characters to be complex and interesting and subversive, not problematic.

Sensitivity to marginalized folks is hard, but it's the right thing to do; being aware of, if not entirely immersed in, the ongoing ongoingness of the conversation both stills my keyboard/pen/tongue, and makes them quiver with the need to speak. Being loud and rude to those with privilege is something I'm adept at; being expressive and evocative of those without is a large space I only dimly see the outline of; reaching out to (and trusting) those who inhabit this space as their lives to say "stop doing it wrong like that" is where I'm trying to be now.

Lotta words to say, "Man, I wish awareness of privilege could spread via toxoplasmosis, too." (so, yeah, hi, I'm that guy from tumblr *waves*)
Don't be afraid. Be bold. What I've learned from experience is that if you write from the heart, and first and foremost, treat your characters like actual people instead of tokens or ideals, and if you do research and use common sense, it's hard to go spectacularly wrong.

And if you do go wrong, a heartfelt apology is rarely a bad idea. When you see the various Fails in action, it's usually because someone screwed up and/or got called out, and responded from the gut rather than thinking it through.



lenora_rose

3 years ago

seanan_mcguire

3 years ago

(and the fact that having an Indian woman show up and never speak a line is apparently enough to put Indexing on the same level as Blackout for some people just makes me weep for humanity)
Hey, she EXISTED IN A BOOK okay my standards are really low.
We need to make a world where they can be higher!
I really liked this!!!!!!!!! good post, seanan.
Thanks.

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That's because you're SMART.
Growing up I read voraciously and I still didn't discover bisxuality existed as a category until I was well out of college. Perhaps if I'd seen bi characters in things I read, I might have been able to go, "hey, I'm like that too; I'm not the only one like this."

PS: I believe it was Tanya Huff who said to assume all her characters were bi until shown to be something else :-)
That's what I do with characters anyways. Unless they really come across as something else in-canon (I read Axel Higgs from Girl Genius as aroace until he started showing serious romantic feelings for Zeetha, for example).

I read voraciously growing up too, but it was fanfic that made me realize that there was a word for the funny feelings I got whenever I saw Rebecca Romijn in X-Men. And even then, the first gay character I saw in fiction (that wasn't specifically gay fiction) was Daja in The Will of the Empress. It was such a relief to see characters like me in fiction, and done well!

sylviamcivers

3 years ago

geekhyena

3 years ago

sylviamcivers

3 years ago

geekhyena

3 years ago

evieeros

3 years ago

seanan_mcguire

3 years ago

I agree that we need more different races, cultures and sexualities (I'd also like them to explain who's what near the beginning, cause, sorry, I'm a white male and unless it's obvious our MC is black or female, I'm making assumptions).

I know though in my own writing I'm a little nervous about writing about those cultures I don't know, which feels like all of them. Can I make character X Hispanic? but I'm not sure how well I can write his mother then. I don't want it to be just a painted over white dude, if he's going to be something else, he's going to be something else.

The scariest, to me, was someone on a writing website asking for advice and tossing out that her main character was transgender, "but it didn't really matter". I'm sorry but unless the switch happened a decade ago it's a major undercurrent of the person and from her summary of the idea we weren't even sure where she was in the process (obviously, cause, you know, it didn't matter!) but probably too young for it to be just a fact of her past.
Things do need to be specified. That said, sometimes parts of character don't matter to the story in question. A transman living a happy male life, not "out" to his community (and why should he be?), may have some emotional baggage that would need to be unpacked over the course of a novel, but not over the course of a short story, where he's just fighting vampires and no one's asking about his childhood.

Context counts, too.
Oh, HELL yes.

Growing up kinky (and bi) in the 60s and early 70s was *so* much fun.

Anybody kinky in fiction was the villian or sick or... *great* for the self-esteem.

Gay/bi? Only place that showed up much was in porn. :-(

It wasn't until I ran into stuff like "The Left Hand of Darkness" and "The Man Who Folded Himself" that I ran into any positive stufff about sexuality.

As for kink... *sigh* Gor did *not* help.


Anybody kinky in fiction was the villian or sick or... *great* for the self-esteem.

Gay/bi? Only place that showed up much was in porn. :-(


Oh good grief I HATE these tropes. There is still far too much of that particular pigeon-holing going on. *hugs if wanted*

seanan_mcguire

3 years ago

I remember walking into a SF&F convention for the first time, and being among My People. It is probably an anemic comparison, but... everyone should be able to walk into such things and find Their People there. (Whether Whovians or Trekkies or RPGers or whatever!) Being the Outsider is lonely. There is no reason not to share!

If I am ever distracted when you mention someone is "diverse," it is generally a "Oh, cool!" moment. So. Keep on, please!
I shall.
Brava.
This is one of the many reasons I like both you and your work. Just sayin'.
Aw, thanks.
Yes.
Yay.
I didn't even *notice* diversity within your work until you pointed it out. Which makes it extraordinarily well done. Of course there are diverse characters in, for example, New York or San Francisco. It just made sense. Thank you!
This. I've never lived in San Francisco, but I know New York wouldn't feel realistic without people who don't look/act like me.

wendyzski

3 years ago

seanan_mcguire

3 years ago

I'm reminded of the recent kerfuffle regarding the lack of women represented in the announcement of the upcoming World of Warcraft expansion. One of the most heartbreaking comments I read was here - I'll paste the text below:

When Blizzard doesn’t write stories featuring complex, well-rounded female characters, it tells me and others that I am not capable of being a well-rounded character.

When Blizzard doesn’t write stories featuring female leaders, it tells me and others that I am not capable of being a leader.

When Blizzard doesn’t write stories featuring mothers in roles beyond nurturer and care-giver, it tells me and others that motherhood is the end of a woman’s story.

When Blizzard doesn’t write stories featuring female characters at all, it tells me and others that I am not worthy of stories.

If I am not worthy of stories, then I am not human.


While specific to WoW and female characters there, I think that last line is something that can be applied to anyone who falls outside the straight/cis/white/dude category. So every time I see someone complain at marginalized groups asking for representation, I want to grab them and point them to that comment and scream, "THIS IS WHY REPRESENTATION MATTERS!"

(Disclaimer that I'm a straight white cis woman, and thus fairly privileged in terms of seeing people like me in stories, even if they aren't always the stories I *want* to see me in.)
Thanks for that insight into WoW - I have been away from the game for about 2 months, and I am only hearing things on the periphery about the expansion reception.

I really think that for the expansion following Warlords we will see a lot of female Primary leads.... Blizzard seems to be catching on that women make up a significant part of their player base, and that they don't want to alienate them.

seanan_mcguire

3 years ago

As somebody who pretty much cried when Henry's brother showed up because you treated him so wonderfully, yes, I am all for selfie culture. I think the reason people with power deride selfie culture is because they're afraid we aren't paying attention to them.
YES. I actually shouted "HOLY CRAP YES!" when that happened. On a crowded bus. Worth the weird looks I got though!

seanan_mcguire

3 years ago

I find it absolutely amazing and wonderful when I see characters of all backgrounds show up. Whether they're LGBTQ, or Characters of Color, or just minorities that are underrepresented, I get a little thrill of excitement when they turn up and are treated like actual breathing flesh-and-blood people. (Or... um... supernatural creatures? Y'know what I mean.)

One of the reasons I love Ben Aaronovitch's Peter Grant series is because the main character isn't white, he lives in a large city (London) full of diversity, and the default race isn't necessarily white. When a white guy shows up, it's mentioned, not assumed.The main character's point of view is different enough that all of our normal auto-assumptions are thrown off.

Bring on the diversity. PLEASE. I want a world full of color and wonder and interesting characters.
Me, too.
I would join in saying "thank you", except I don't want to add to the tiredness... I shall confine myself to pointing out that it's not just your characters who are awesome.
Thanks, honey.
This is a righteous rant, and you must be doing something very much right to piss off so many people. Keep up the good work!

Also, "selfie culture"? Huh what? The more diversity the better, I say.
Agreed.

disposable002

December 6 2013, 23:29:39 UTC 3 years ago Edited:  December 6 2013, 23:30:55 UTC

One of the best things about your books is that characters are just who they are. A character can be gay without it being their sole characteristic; without their sexuality being a template that stamps them with a particular set of behaviors, concerns, politics, or preferences. We are all complex, multi-faceted people. The more authors that present the world as populated with a wide range of diverse, complex people, the better the books will be.
Agreed.
One of the most interesting experiences I've had was standing in an open-air market in Ruhengeri, Rwanda, waiting for my mother to come back. At the time (after living in very white cities my whole life) I was struck by being the only white person in sight. In my memory, though, I remember it as being in a market with only Rwandans. I like my memory.I don't know if the kids got to read books about Rwandans, though.
Interesting.
I love that your work incorporates an addresses so much diversity without panderingor tokenizing and that the comments on your page are actually worth reading :-D
We have some good commentors here, it's true!
"If that's what you think, you can go fuck yourself."

i <3 you. :)
Yay!
Well said. I don't think people should do 'inclusion for inclusion's sake' when writing/filming/creating -- I think they should automatically have it because OMFG, it's how life is! If you're trying to force it, you'll come off like an idiot, imo. But if you have to force it, you should be sitting back and thinking long and hard about why having a variety of people is difficult for you. I am starting to see more and more where it's not just assumed someone is straight and where a same-sex spouse is introduced not as a "TA DA! LOOK AT ME! I HAVE A GAY CHARACTER" moment but instead as something just natural and normal. Ditto with any ethnic or gendered status. The more this comes naturally to more people the better the world and our creations will be. Seanan does this masterfully already, as do some other authors I admire, and I hope their influence and example resonate and spread until this just becomes the norm.
Agreed.
The media we consume defines the world we live in.

I choose the blogs I follow, the authors I read, the music I listen to. I like the world I live in. It's not perfect, but I'm fond of it.

There is another world though, where I need to go to earn a living. This other world is a strange place dominated by white, cis, het, males.

I can only tolerate so much of that place.

It's the one people call 'reality.'
Heh.
Diversity in fiction is -- jarring?

I wonder how these folk walk down the street.

Must be so disconcerting. Poor dears.
I know.

Pure terror.
When I read about a person and am given no clues I mentally think "white heterosexual male" since that's what I am. When I find out otherwise I change the mental picture and keep reading. The only time it gets to me is if it is forced, for whatever reason. Your writing doesn't do that and that's part of what keeps me reading whatever you write.There are writers who go out of their way to push the fact that the character is xxx, as if they are trying to get a reaction, as if it's a big thing. I think that these writers are the ones who are the point of this conversation, plus the usual bigots who will flame about anything.
I think you're right.
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