"what is the purpose of Dr. Kellis being gay? It neither adds or subtracts to the story line but is distracting."
Dr. Kellis was gay because Dr. Kellis was gay. I "met" the character in the same scene that everyone else did, when his husband showed up to try and convince him to leave the lab for a little while. He was a man, he had a husband, he was at minimum bisexual, and for the purposes of the story, he was gay. He was a gay scientist. Since he wasn't working on gay science (I'm not even sure what that phrase means), it mattered purely in the sense that when he talked about going home, it was to a husband, and not a wife. I honestly never thought about changing it. While everyone in the world is at least somewhat defined by their sexuality—it shapes us throughout our lives, both in the exercising of it and in the existence of it—I've never felt like it was the be-all and end-all of human experience.
What weirded me out a little, and still does, is that no one has ever asked me "What is the purpose of Character X being straight?" No one has ever called it "distracting" when Velma has naughty thoughts about Tad, or when Toby blushes because Tybalt is commenting on her clothing. Men and women, women and men, it's totally normal and invisible, like using "said" in dialog instead of some other, more descriptive word. It's invisible. But gay people are distracting. (Bisexual people are apparently even more distracting. I've had several people write to tell me that a piece of text in Blackout can be read to imply that Buffy and Maggie had sex, and some of them have been less than thrilled when I replied that there was no implication intended: Buffy and Maggie had sex. Repeatedly. Lots of sex. Lovely sex. They enjoyed it a lot, but Maggie took it more seriously than Buffy did, and Buffy wanted to keep things casual, so they broke up. But before they broke up? They had so much sex.)
For the most part, I let my characters tell me what their sexuality is, once it starts to have an impact on their characterization. I don't write Bob as a gay man and Tom as a straight man and Suzie as a lesbian: I write Bob as a zookeeper and Tom as a ballet teacher and Suzie as a ninja, right up until the moment where they have to interact with someone they'd be attracted to. Sometimes, that's when they tell me what they're into. Since this is all in first draft, I can go back later and clean things up, clarify things to add any additional detail that needs to be there, but I almost never tell them "Oh, no, you can't be gay, it would be distracting. It's not allowed."
(The one exception is with characters who are here to go—the ones created to be slaughtered in fifteen pages or less. They're not all straight, but I have to stop and think long and hard about how I would have felt, as a bisexual teenager, if I had finally, finally encountered an awesome bisexual woman in fiction, only to see her die before she got to be amazing. Sometimes this does result in my reexamining their relationships, as it's also difficult to really form strong character portraits in fifteen pages or less. Anyone who's sticking around for more than fifteen pages is fair game.)
Gay people don't walk around saying "I'd like to have an urban fantasy adventure, I'm gay, I like men/women, let's go fight a dragon" any more than straight people walk around saying "I'd like to go to space, I'm straight, I like men/women, let's go steal a rocket." People is the word that matters here. And yes, being anything other than heterosexual and cis in this world means that you're going to experience different things, and have some different perspectives, but it doesn't inform one hundred percent of what you do. I eat pizza the same way my straight friends eat pizza. I watch TV the same way my straight friends watch TV. I chase lizards...well, I chase lizards in a uniquely singleminded and slightly disturbing fashion, but as I'm not a lizardsexual, it has nothing to do with who I do or do not choose to form romantic relationships with.
Dr. Kellis is gay because Dr. Kellis is gay.
He doesn't need any reason beyond that.
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And next thing you know, your Significant Other turns into a rubber band with an IQ of 700, and his best friend turns into a pile of bricks..
This reminds me of the Outer Limits episode "Moonstone". One astronaut was played by a black man. The network said there was nothing in the script that required that the character be black. The writer simply changed the script to say 'BLACK ASTRONAUT', thus fulfilling the network's requirements.
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I remember noting he had a husband, and thinking 'Huzzah, at least California got that worked out before the zombie apocalypse' and moving on.
I guess that's the point. Hopefully in the near future I won't even have that mental note anymore.
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I'm not trying to make a statement. He's just bi.
I hate that I have to explain his backstory.
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Whatever it is, it's the opposite of economics.
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Relationship orientation is not sexual orientation any more than my gender is determined by my pink bits.
(That said, Seanan creates universes I love and the fact she writes a character with an attribute is enough for me to accept that the character has the attribute for a reason... even if that reason is 'cos it just IS.)
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I experienced this pretty early on. I wrote a story for college in which the characters were using sign language. I didn't bother to explain why. They just were. BOY HOWDY did that confuse people. And they then went on to make all sorts of assumptions. Y'know, other than, like, 'they both know a signed language, so why not?' Or even the very simple explanation of 'one of them is Deaf'.
No, I was just being distracting and confusing.
Every time you /don't/ decide to make your character white or male, you're 'defaulting' to it, and that's just laziness. He's white because I didn't even stop to consider for a moment that you could have a black female astronaut. Oh yea.. Well I didn't /say/ he was white. Yea, but you named him John Smith and said he was blond.
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This is totally my philosophy. The characters tell us who they are and what they like.
If they're gay, good. If they're straight, good. If they're bi or trans, black or white, tall or thin, or anything else whatsoever.... fine!
Often times, the needs of a story might dictate certain things about a character. But when the story doesn't dictate that certain things be so... do what seems right.
I have a story in making the rounds, in which the narrator is gay. It's not a plot requirement or something that even comes up because of the story save in the character's mind...but I know he's gay, and he alludes to it, and moves on because O HAI, WE'RE IN TROUBLE. Could he be straight? Yeah, but his sexuality doesn't matter to the plot at hand...and it might matter if he appears again.
So there. Let them be gay. Even if it means that some reader will identify with the character, and go "Hey, look, here's someone just like me, and they had an inadvertent hand in bringing around the apocalypse. HOORAY ROLE MODEL!)
(Sorry, it's been a day. It really has.) :)
June 24 2013, 16:06:52 UTC 4 years ago
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Love you always.
June 21 2013, 21:19:44 UTC 4 years ago
All I have to say :)
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I disagree. It adds a sense of normality for we readers who don't fit into the box marked heteronormative.
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When change is happening in society, that IS distracting - until we get used to it.
I'm not a fan of Victorian literature, but I've been told that there were entire novels written back then where The Big Ending was to reveal that a certain character was gay. When modern readers get a novel like that they ask "Where is the ending of the story?" - because that sort of reveal ISN'T considered a be-all, end-all type of thing.
During the period when I was growing up, a gay person in a story was still such a rarity that it was almost guarenteed to be at least IMPORTANT to the story line. Your reader seems to be from that background - that it wouldn't have been mentioned unless it was IMPORTANT, and so they spend time looking for that importance. Thus the distraction.
We are now (ever-so-slowly) moving into a society where "It just exists". Literature that TREATS it as something that "just exists" will help. When people GROW UP with books (and TV shows and movies and so on) that don't automatically couple it with the idea "THIS IS IMPORTANT OR IT WOULDN'T DARE BE MENTIONED" society will tend to have a more accepting view of things that are still controversial today (gay marriage and such).
Your reader may not be actively against gay people, but your reader still represents the inertia that society has when trying to get used to a change. You, OTOH, are part of the solution. Keep writing the way you do!
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Now, when Maggie dropped the news about Buffy and herself I was suprised, which was pretty much how the characters reacted. But then that makes Maggie's concern for her other friends' safety all the more poignant. And shows us that, despite the rising, love still goes on.
June 24 2013, 16:14:17 UTC 4 years ago
Yes, this.
June 21 2013, 21:51:37 UTC 4 years ago
PS yes the icon is Schrodinger's equation for sexuality. Bisexual-physics nerd alert! ;)
June 22 2013, 00:22:15 UTC 4 years ago
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