If you make a post about the state of rape culture in urban fantasy, be prepared to deal with a lot of comments, reposts, and administrative scramble. This is not a complaint, I just want to write it down so that I'll remember next time. Also, I am still answering email and comments, it's just taking me a little while.
Things that make me proud:
With one exception, every discussion thread I have encountered has been totally civil and cool. Like, seriously, one site has had people going "but rape is essential to modern storytelling," and that is an amazing ratio. Thank you to everyone who has participated in this conversation, anywhere. This has been an incredibly civil, enlightening, interesting discussion, and I am so, so grateful that we all played nicely with each other.
A clarification of my position:
Okay, so. The one thing that I have seen people saying, which is reasonable, is that rape is an unfortunate reality of the world in which we live, and saying it never happens is not just unrealistic, it can feel like we're trying to erase the reality of survivors of sexual abuse. As a survivor of sexual abuse, this is absolutely not a thing that I am intending to do, or interested in doing.
But here's the thing. Had the question been "Will you ever write about a character who has been raped or otherwise abused?", I would probably have answered in the affirmative, just because I write a lot, about everything, and I'm not taking anything off the table. That wasn't the question. The question was "When will a character whose story you are already telling, who has not had this experience, have this experience on the printed page?" (Note that this was not the exact wording of the original question, but my reading of such. It's better punctuated, for one thing.)
I am not willing to write rape. I am especially not willing to write the rape of a first-person character, which describes all my current urban fantasy protagonists. I don't live vicariously through my characters, but there are sentences I am never, never writing as "I, me, mine." That doesn't mean I'm trying to erase the reality of sexual abuse. Just that it will never be a thing which happens during my books, because honestly, that is a thing I am not willing to put myself, my characters, or my readers through. I'm not telling stories that require it. I don't want to.
The other point I'd like to clarify is this: I've had a few people say that sexual violence should always be on the table simply because it's so realistic for male villains to want to use that against female heroes. Well, in my two primary universes, I have feral pixies living in a San Francisco Safeway, and frogs with feathers. If a lack of "I will dominate you with my dick" is all that makes you think I'm being unrealistic, I want some of whatever you're having.
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October 7 2012, 02:02:37 UTC 4 years ago
BTW, seeing them link to your post is just cool. That is one of my favorite sites.
October 7 2012, 02:10:06 UTC 4 years ago
I know, right?!
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That Decemberists song gets stuck in my head once a week and I love it to bits.
October 7 2012, 02:11:10 UTC 4 years ago
I love them like burning. LIKE BURNING.
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October 7 2012, 02:10:39 UTC 4 years ago
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
Thank you! And for the record, I don't believe that duplicating every horror that our world now holds is the key to building a better world -- in Fairyland or here.
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Also, it kind of overlooks that writers craft their villains. Sure, if you're picking up scum and villainy at the local temp agency without looking at their resumes, you might end up with a rapist. But writers can choose what stories they tell, and if the villain or his henchmen makes them want to do the icky dance rather than the delighted evil cackle when they write him, that story might not get done on deadline. And then the cats go hungry and this is Bad.
It's not like there's a shortage of antagonists that don't see 'I will dominate you with my dick' as a primary goal, even in worlds without feral Safeway pixies or frickens.
October 7 2012, 02:18:57 UTC 4 years ago
Yes, this.
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October 7 2012, 02:19:49 UTC 4 years ago
I love that last line. Awesome. :)
October 7 2012, 02:21:04 UTC 4 years ago
My favorite was when my open letter to girls got linked somewhere and somebody went OMG WHO IS THIS GUY TO PRETEND HE KNOWS WHAT GIRLS NEED. And got "Um, did you Google the name before you got upset?"
"Oh. She's a girl."
"Yeah."
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Have I mentioned lately how much I adore you?
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I still maintain, I want to escape in my books - not have all the horrors of the world in my face.
Give me a zombie or a fiesty pixie anyday.
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October 7 2012, 02:38:46 UTC 4 years ago
Also: Toby's been through enough horrible things already.
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Brava!
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October 7 2012, 02:47:24 UTC 4 years ago
Seriously -- what especially squicked me out -- and infuriated me -- about the rape enthusiast is that he seemed resentful that you had not fed his deep interest in dehumanizing women. In fact, that's doubly infuriating, not only in his unacceptable demand, but in his belief that you are obligated to serve up whatever he, as a reader, desires.
Unacceptable and unforgivable. And a prime git. (Him, not you!)
October 7 2012, 03:18:31 UTC 4 years ago
There may be pixies!
October 7 2012, 02:50:41 UTC 4 years ago
In slightly different news, I re-posted your Dear Girls of the World on my tumblr back in May, and every few weeks I see that that another couple of people, mostly young women, have "liked" it and/or reposted it to their readers, which makes me happy because it is such a great message and I'm glad it's still finding readers and trickling out into the world.
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[hopefully none of this would be spoilers, I dont know why it would be, but I am still talking about plot, so...]
Although Toby hasn't been raped, or that hasn't come up, there is always the subject of Devin. Although he was horrible, killed people she cared about, abused her, manipulated her, etc, she still seems to think of him almost fondly at times, and still appreciates the things he taught her, what he provided for her, etc.
And unless I am totally mistaken, there was that one time in Rosemary in Rue, where she slept with him, right? I seem to remember that. I know it wasn't rape, but he was manipulating her at the time, making her think he could trust her when of course he was the enemy and was going to use violence against her later (at the end of the book). That was barely even addressed, and it retrospectively felt like rape in my mind because she never would have let it happen if she knew what she knew by the end of the book.
I don't know why I needed to say this at all...I guess just because the whole idea has always made me feel so uncomfortable and I haven't personally seen anyone talk about it.
October 7 2012, 03:20:27 UTC 4 years ago
Problematic, but not rape, if that makes sense.
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October 7 2012, 04:03:12 UTC 4 years ago
I don't write but if I did the only rape featured would be Brassica napus. It would be the variety with 50% erucic acid so it would not be confused with canola.
Of course, most of your series take place in cities, so a scene on a farm seems unlikely for now. And if there were one, cornfields are much more traditional.
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October 7 2012, 04:17:26 UTC 4 years ago
To hell with the detractors. You don't need to justify or defend your reasons for not including rape in your stories. There's plenty of it elsewhere, in fiction and in real life. We don't need more.
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October 7 2012, 05:02:13 UTC 4 years ago
Thank you, thank you, thank you! For both posts! And really, this is such a relief! I'm only halfway through the Toby Daye series, and now I can read on without worrying about getting triggered! I wish there were more authors like you...
(Sorry I didn't post in "Things I will never do to my characters. Ever.", but there were about 700+ comments stating my feelings way more eloquent than I ever could already, and I have severe social anxiety issues, so I lurked as usual. Trying to work on that.)
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I'm not sure what I'm trying to say here, other than that I'm now noticing gratuitous use of rape to point out "bad people are bad!" even if it's in the remote background, and finding it disturbing.
October 8 2012, 15:13:15 UTC 4 years ago
"They killed people!"
"Boo."
"They ate bunnies!"
"Boo."
"They committed rape!"
"OMG THEY ARE MONSTERS LET US REACT WITH NONE OF THE SHADES OF SLUT-SHAMING THAT WE FREQUENTLY BRING TO REAL LIFE!!!!!!!!"
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October 7 2012, 05:28:45 UTC 4 years ago
But seriously, thank You.
*huggle*
October 7 2012, 15:35:33 UTC 4 years ago
So I really would not expect a feathered frog to be going about doing... that sort of display as a dominance behavior. >_>
It might stick its tongue out at you, though.
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October 7 2012, 05:30:33 UTC 4 years ago
By some measures you have already done this.
While we never find out exactly what happened to Raysel during the time she was kidnapped (and truly I do not want to know) I do not think abuse is too strong a word.
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