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Adventures in Self-Promotion.

This morning, I politely removed myself from six new groups that had been created on Facebook while I was sleeping. All six of them were "buy my book" groups, created by people I don't know personally, telling me about the exciting opportunity I have to purchase their brand new book. Four of them were for ebook-only editions (which is relevant because anyone who knows my reading habits knows that I prefer to read physical books). Three were for books in genres that I do not reliably read. One was for a book whose subject matter was something I find actively offensive, and have discussed as offensive in the past.

This morning, I deleted eight emails from people I don't know personally, telling me about the exciting opportunity I have to purchase their brand new book. Five were ebook-only, four were genres I don't follow, two were in genres I explicitly don't read ever (hint: I am not the target market for your "raping serial killer rape-ily rapes his way through Rapetown adventure).

This morning, I received five targeted tweets from people I don't know personally, telling me about the exciting opportunity I have to purchase their brand new book. I don't know the breakdowns there; I don't click unsolicited links.

Look: I understand the excitement of a new book, or even of a not-so-new book. It's your baby, it's your imaginary friend dressed in the very finest clothes you can buy, and it's all alone in an increasingly large and tangled marketplace. We want to give our stories every advantage that we can, and it's pretty clear that "more readers" is a huge advantage. Sometimes I wish I had my mother's blatant salesmanship. She hands out bookmarks advertising my books everywhere she goes. Grocery stores. Funerals. Wherever. But she's not me. When she does it, it's a mother supporting her daughter, and it's harmless enthusiasm. From me, those same actions take on an air of desperation. I have to find a better way. We all do.

The accessibility of readers (and authors) on the internet has changed the shape of the game, and is still changing it, as we try to sort out who stands where. But, well...

Have you ever parked at a supermarket or a movie theater or another place where parking happens, and come back to your care to find like thirty flyers shoved up under the window wipers, waiting for you? They're all advertising services that may have relevance to your life, like pet sitting and yard work and, I don't know, exorcisms. But the odds are good that you don't know, because the odds are good that you, like the rest of us, threw those flyers away. Maybe one of them gave you a paper cut. Maybe that was enough to make you notice what it was advertising. If it did, do you think that became a service you wanted to buy? Or did the negative impression rule the day?

Yeah.

The internet is not a neighborhood in need of door-to-door salesmen. In order to promote books, we need to be engaging and engaged. We need to talk about our lives and our pets and the current season of So You Think You Can Dance (your TV mileage may vary). And then, yes, we can talk about our books. But—and this is the big one—that needs to happen on our space.

If I turn my Twitter feed into the all-my-new-book, all-the-time channel, you can unfollow me. If I @ you constantly, unless you want to block me, you're screwed. If (and when) I turn this blog into the all-my-new-book, all-the-time channel, you can unfriend me. A few people do, every time promo season arrives. Most of them come back when it's over, having safely weathered the storm...but I don't follow them into their own blogs and insist that they listen.

If you want to be seen by more eyes, buy ad space on popular webcomics with a theme similar to yours. See if one of the major book blogs has space for a guest post, or whether you'd qualify for John Scalzi's Big Idea. Or just keep blogging, saying interesting things, and increasing the size of your platform. There are ways. It just takes time.

There is a difference between promotion in our own spaces and promotion in the spaces of others. One is appropriate and necessary. The other is a very fine line, and stepping over it can result in lost readers and hurt sensibilities, and that's never a good thing.
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Things like that are why I'm always careful what I say online, especially to people like authors/agents/publishers. For everything I actually say, there are 10 things I start to say and stop, because I examine if it adds to what they're saying or not, and what I would think about it if they said it to me.
It's like the people who, as soon as you follow them, direct message you with crap. I immediately unfollow, because it's clear they're only after self-promotion.
Word.

I mean, I kind of get it with OMG CELEBRITIES having a "welcome" DM, because that way, if you're someone who really loves interacting with celebrities, you can at least pretend that you had one genuine moment of contact. It may take some of the pressure off. But almost all other situations? Nuh-uh.

mariadkins

4 years ago

seanan_mcguire

4 years ago

mariadkins

4 years ago

lots42

4 years ago

By a strange coincidence, I've written a book all about this phenomenon! Let me tell you all-- OW OUCH STOP OW OOF! *thud*
And STAY out!

the_gneech

4 years ago

Yeah -- this.

I get the impression that like most grey (or is this black?) practices, "you can make your book popular by spamming" has its own shady economy around it.

People will sell you books or put up websites telling you that you can make your book popular by spamming (or engaging in practices that they'll tell you aren't spamming -- but they still are). Vanity and near-vanity presses will claim that you can then sell your book via such practices, people will offer to sell you lists of people you can spam who will make your book an instant seller, and so on.

And...it's all lies. You don't get a popular product -- any popular product -- by spamming. Advertising can work, but advertising just gets your foot in the door, and works partially because effective advertising (and sure, there's -obviously- scam advertising which doesn't even try to be effective, particularly on the Internet where the interests of advertising middlemen and the actual advertisers and consumers are so often at odds) is done in places where it's seen as appropriate -- where the potential annoyance of advertising is offset by the target buying in to the social contract that someone's -allowed- to show them an advertising in that space (or even, like advertising on subway platforms, where the advertising actually acts as a service, providing something to read during times where the target might otherwise be bored).

Clearly, a lot of where the confusion (letting people scam you) is that obviously people -do- publish books that gain a lot of popularity because of their internet presence. But the order isn't "write a book" -> "blog about it" -> ??? -> "The book becomes popular" -> "Profit".

Instead it's "blog about interesting things" -> "people like what you write and you develop a following" -> "write a book (or already have one in print)" -> "since you already have a following, your book is more popular". Functionally, if you've got a popular blog, of -course- your later writing has a leg up -- because fundamentally you already have a following of people who are willing to buy your writing (even if it's for the price of "free + time"). The only thing that attracts new readers, in the end, is writing stuff they want to read.
All so very true.
Thank you thank you for saying what really needs to be said. I have tried to hammer it into my fellow authors' heads that that is NOT how you market your books. I, sadly, have been down the same road--added to mailing lists I never requested to be on, added to FB groups that spam my inbox (because I have it set up to email me new posts on FB, since otherwise I'd forget about the groups I want to actively participate in), constant barrage of @ replies and tweets and FB wall posts telling me BUY MY BOOK BUY MY BOOK! It's starting to drive me insane, and I've taken to blocking and deleting people who do it, and I've set it to moderate wall postings on my Timeline on FB because I don't want my feed junked up with other peoples' advertisements. And they're almost invariably NEVER books I would actually ever read.

I've shared your post with a Facebook group called Indie Writers Unite. Hopefully some of them will take your words to heart.
If you spam me, you annoy me. Now my first reaction to you, and to your book, is annoyance. That is...not the reaction that you want, really.

Hope springs eternal!

kengr

4 years ago

*stands up and applauds*
*curtseys*
amen
We try.
Wait. What?

I know there are books where a good guy tries to -stop- a rapist...
Yes, and then there are books where the "good guy" is one.

lots42

4 years ago

elialshadowpine

4 years ago

dragoness_e

4 years ago

elialshadowpine

4 years ago

I love that you're using your platform to give out valuable advice. Self-promotion is such a tricky path to walk, too...
It's hard and it makes my head hurt.

zombiefruit

4 years ago

seanan_mcguire

4 years ago

I haven't had as many of the 'opportunities', but yes, I can't see how this practice can work well.
Mind you, I am rubbish at self-promotion to begin with, so...
Most of us are.
That's frustrating. When I follow an author on social media, I expect some amount of book promotion because it's part of the job, but I have unfollowed people who do nothing but link to their book.

I loathe being added to groups with my consent though. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I think authors forcing groups or newsletters on people who didn't sign up for them are doing more harm than good.
Agreed, on all counts.
Does anyone remember the cartoon "The Critic"? There's an episode where Jay's stalker has the automated cutout for Brentano's that says over and over, "BUY MY BOOK! BUY MY BOOK!" That's what I hear in my head when I come across this stuff.
I had forgotten about that! That was hilarious.

biteybatgirl

4 years ago

seanan_mcguire

4 years ago

I appreciate your approach to advertising, especially since my wife and I are near-captive audiences at this point and it would take more than violating my personal internet space to get me to stop buying your books. I am in, for example, this space here because I want to know more (and because your books suggest you're an interesting thinker); I hate having things shoved into my face, and it's a good way to get me to -not- read something; anyone who advertises with a service that does pop-ups, for example, is likely to lose me, and spamming requests to join various things makes me see red.
Yeah. I want to be sold the author, not the work.
So, so, so agree!

As a book blogger, I follow a lot of authors online, through Twitter, Facebook, GoodReads, etc. Some of them I've read, but many I have not. I get that all of them are trying to promote their books, and I expect a certain amount of self-promotion. But when all you say is, "Buy my book," over and over and over again...I'm not going to, because by that time you've already annoyed me. But if you seem like a reasonable enough person, you're not continually shoving your authoriness in my face, and your book is in a genre I generally enjoy, I might read your book. Then I might blog about it.

Unfortunately, it happens a lot, and authors don't seem to know that line between promotion and desperation. As an avid reader, and a regular buyer of both print and e-books, it DOES make a difference to me.
And that's the thing. I want everyone to be in a great position to promote their work...and some people are going about it very, very poorly.
Block them, unfollow them, stamp on them like cockroaches.
ick ick ick.
Yes.
This is exactly why I took down my own works; when I discussed them on Twitter and suchlike, it always felt like I was spamming. I have no talent for nor interest in self-promotion and never found that fine line.
*hug*
It is amazing how many people got through high school without learning that neediness is generally unattractive! Your comments, as always, are well put. I will buy your book because I like your writing, or the subject interests me, or I have visited your online presence and found that to be interesting and well written. I am pretty sure I have never bought one because it was shoved in my face with PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BUY ME LOVE ME TAKE ME HOME.
That's how you sell kittens, not books!
This is a timely post for me because it's something I have been pondering over for a few days now. I do not like the self-promotion, I am not a "seller" (I tried to avoid any and all retail jobs when I started working), and I am in the same boat of "it's different when your parent does it." So my general response is, "Yes. This."

But also, is anyone else a little sad that SYTYCD has been on hiatus because of the Olympics? I need my Travis Wall routines, people. Not to Adam Shankman getting awesomely overcome with emotion by a routine.
I am really unhappy about that. I neeeeeeeeeeeed my Cat Deeley fix! SHE IS AS OXYGEN TO ME!!!!!!

ravens_shadow

4 years ago

"Sometimes I wish I had my mother's blatant salesmanship. She hands out bookmarks advertising my books everywhere she goes. "

Yeah. My husband does this. Sometimes in airports he will hand a bookmark to someone quietly reading a book in a waiting area just as that person closes the book and starts to pack up to go somewhere - just to"keep their place". I generally crawl under the nearest seat when he does that in my presence, and I could no more do it myself than I could pull a weapon on another person.

Still, there are times that I do wish I had the feeling that more than 150 people in sum total out there knew my name...
That's what mothers and husbands are for!

I am so glad you have that kind of "street team" in your corner.
While I stuck a _writer on my twittername (because otherwise all the obvious name-combos of my name were taken! D:O ), I almost never tweedle about what I'm writing. Mostly I'm there to more-easily follow some people I know who tweet interesting things, because otherwise I see the tweets in my LJ and can't respond to them. It got frustrating after a while. (So if anyone following me is doing so with the hopes of me talking about my own writing... Um, sorry? Here, have this @seananmcguire re-tweet instead! She's much more eloquent!)
Hee.

You are lovely.
You can @ me any time.

Did you keep the flier for exorcisms? I might need one.
Oh baby baby baby wah.

ohari

4 years ago

Yes! I follow a few authors on various media things and I adore the authors who have figured out this simple thing: if I'm following you, I probably already intend to read and/or buy your book. That's why I'm following you. But if you insist on telling me several times a day to buy your thing it mostly makes make want to NOT buy your thing. Or continue to follow you. The people who are already following you will not be new sales and you (general you, not you specifically, of course) will mostly likely drive sales away by acting like a buy my thing all the time channel.

I get how hard it is to get book sales and I certainly understand the occasional hey, here's this new thing I have, check it out post. But when every post is like that it only serves to drive away otherwise loyal readers. There are authors I've stopped following and/or reading for that reason.
Sad but true.

It's why I feel a little weird when I miss a few review roundups and then have to do several to catch up. I know some people really like them, but they're more "promote-y" than I like to be on a daily basis.

msagara

August 6 2012, 23:20:03 UTC 4 years ago Edited:  August 6 2012, 23:20:41 UTC

The extremely smart Courtney Milan also posted about this (sideways) at:

http://www.courtneymilan.com/ramblings/2012/08/06/the-error-of-numerosity/

(This may get caught in the spam filter on LJ, but I’m crossing my fingers).
Oh, nice points.
Oh ick. If all your social media use is a 1 way self promo, you have just driven me away.

(Back in the old days...) When I first got on twitter, there was a local realtor who was new to it, and decided that the only thing he would tweet would be his listings, and he would tweet them aggressively. I put up with it for a short time, not really knowing much better, then I unfollowed him. He unfollowed me, then re-followed me. Then did it five or six times, thinking that I would automatically follow him back. I finally blocked him and after it got to be ridiculous. His name became a teaching lesson for local folks who were more tech savvy, after they tried to tell him that he was alienating the people he was trying to reach. I don't think he ever learned, he just dropped twitter eventually.
Ewwwwwwwww.

That sort of thing makes me crazy.

ageekgrrl

4 years ago

*applauds loudly*

I am constantly getting new followers on Twitter who want me to read their books, and I'm "just" an avid reader.
I don't even tweet that much these days, so they are wasting their (or their bots') time.
Sad but true.
Yet another reason I'm reluctant to join Facebork. Also, they should leave you alone so you can write, because more Seanan stories is (are?) much more important!
Agreed on both points.

seanan_mcguire

4 years ago

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