My first reaction was, naturally, "It's not enough because it's not enough." But at the end of the day, that reaction isn't enough, either. He was trying. He wanted to understand. So I figured I should try, too.
I explained how, when I was a kid, the only smart blondes I could find were Marilyn Munster and Susan Storm. How I wound up identifying with the Midwich Cuckoos, rather than the humans who they were threatening, because the Cuckoos looked like me and were isolated like me and no one understood them. How, as I got older and realized that what I wanted wasn't necessarily the kind of marriage my mother had, every gay character became a magical revelation—even the ones I would look at now and think of as stereotyped and cardboard. It was enough for me that they were there.
I don't think I saw bisexuals in fiction until I encountered ElfQuest. I definitely didn't encounter them in sympathetic roles, where they were allowed to be people first, and define their sexuality second. It was honestly a revelation to me.
I explained how important to me these characters were, first because they looked like me, and then because they were like me, and how it mattered for them to have a bigger part in the story than just "oh, honest, blondes and bisexuals exist, we keep them all in Australia because they really like the tax situation there." It wasn't that I didn't want straight while males having leading roles. I just wanted them to share.
I read three books recently where race and sexuality were just sort of there. They didn't change the shape of the story, although they were treated fairly and reasonably (and awesomely) by the author. One, Black Blade Blues, was an urban fantasy with an awesome blacksmith heroine who just happens to be a lesbian, and have a girlfriend. And while she had some personal issues to work through (which made her a compelling, relatable character), her story was still recognizably an urban fantasy story, with all the tropes and twists of the genre. The second, Storyteller, was science fiction/fantasy in the Pern style, where you have extremely advanced technology and fascinating aliens, but you're spending most of your time on a low-tech planet that might as well be a fantasy world. One of the central characters is gay; so are several secondary characters. None of them are treated in any way as either superior or inferior to the rest of the cast.
The last, The Hum and the Shiver, dealt more with race than sexuality, although it was notable for having a strong female lead who really enjoyed sex, had really enjoyed sex in the past, and was not in any way ashamed of herself for being a sexual being. It's not a sexy book; she actually has no sex during the book, for reasons the plot makes very clear. But she's not punished for who she is. One of the secondary characters is married to a Southern-raised Asian woman. Why? Because that was who she was. It's not a thing. It's never a thing. It's awesome.
He was still a little confused, so I tried another tack: in my Faerie, in Toby's Faerie, as far as I'm concerned, almost everyone immortal is also bisexual. People who are purely straight or purely gay are almost entirely changelings, and young changelings, at that. Out of the entire current cast, the only one I can point to and say "Yup, totally straight" is Toby, who was raised in the mortal 1950s, and never really considered girls as an option. Everyone else is bi. Yes, him. Yes, him, too. Yes, her. I'm not sure it counts in Lily's case, since she's a body of water that enjoys looking like a person, but she doesn't care about the gender of her meat-based lovers. So yes, even her.
Most fae marriages, on the other hand, are male/female, because the main motivator for fae marriage is having kids, and surrogacy isn't really an option when it takes three hundred years of steady marital relations to reliably get someone pregnant. So if you look at the first several books, everyone looks straight. I was too close to the material to realize that. I knew about Amandine's relationship with Lily, the Luidaeg's long-term Selkie lover, and lots of others. No one else did. What was on the page was heteronormative male/female love, over and over again, in all its good and bad forms.
As soon as I recognized that, I started making more of an effort to actually show the non-hetero relationships in the books. Not because I owed anyone anything. Not because I was pressured. Because saying they were there wasn't enough. It's never enough. We need to see those people, in part because for every kid like me, combing the margins for hidden people I could relate to, there are ten kids who just calmly accepted than yes, they were always going to be the protagonist. Mix it up. Make it different. Make us all learn to identify with other people, and take out the shadows. I learned to identify with straight white males because I had to, and I clung to my narrow band of options. How about we widen the spectrum until everybody gets the chance to learn to identify with everybody? Because that would be awesome.
I explained all this to my friend. I think he understood. And even if he didn't, he's thinking about it now, and he's smart; he'll get there.
I'll be waiting for him.
(*I won't name him, because that's not the point, and he's a damn good guy. He just hadn't thought some things through. Everyone has had their instances of not thinking things through, and it's easier when you're a middle-class white male with no particular religious affiliation. Everyone is you unless stated otherwise, in fiction. So please don't ask who my friend was, and I won't be forced to look at you sadly.)
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Then compared and contrasted with Weber's Honor Harrington series, where a male author writes male characters with more emotional range than the reviewers/readers of this other series seemed willing to accept in the male characters of the paranormal romance series.
End with expression of not understanding the apparent "rules" of the romance/paranormal romance genre sufficiently to write in that genre, and finding the reviews... daunting.
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Because it took college and a really flirty girl for me to figure out I like women, too. It took a long time, despite plenty of signs being there, because no one had every shown me, either in person or in fiction, what it meant to be bisexual. Or at least, what I saw never seemed real to me.
March 29 2012, 23:39:43 UTC 5 years ago
I can't explain why, but it's sentences like that which just make me happy. If that was the entire plot of a book, I'd want to read it. :)
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I'm afraid I don't have anything to add other than a resounding "THIS^^^" sorry.
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One of the reasons we liked Caprica (the prequel series to the new Battlestar Galactica, if you don't watch this sort of thing) was that Bill Adama's uncle, the mob enforcer, had a husband, and no one ever mentioned it in any way. That was just who he was married to, and not worth commenting on.
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Identity is a very complicated thing, and I feel like I sprinkle my own identification over several characters of various backgrounds usually; but I like to have the option of queer characters. Especially female ones, or ones that aren't necessarily identifying based on strict gender norms, and those that aren't necessarily young and white, and so on. Not all of these elements match me personally, but having them around just makes the fictional world feel a little more whole, and as you rightly point out in your examples, often we need fiction to show us that we aren't simply "wrong," that a different life is possible.
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I am doing a tiny chairdance right now because of this. (Well. Because of this and like all the Daoine Sidhe.)
You rock.
April 1 2012, 05:58:16 UTC 5 years ago
Thank you.
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Until I found a copy of The Door Into Fire tucked away in an old barrel of books in a friend's house. And read it in one sitting. And my god, bisexual people existed. There was at least one other person in the world who thought it was okay to be interested in boys and girls both, and was willing to write an entire book where lots of other people thought it was okay and normal too. That book changed my life.
Which I guess is just to say, thank you.
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On the one hand, hooray! It's great that your stories and characters delight me.
On the other hand, it is sad that merely seeing a character who isn't straight, and it's not The Main Issue or treated badly -- that just their inclusion -- is reason for me to declare "Hail the Festival of If My Girlfriend Wants To Be An Omen Of Death When We're Not Hanging Out, That's Cool" -- it is a sorry indicator for books in general.
On the gripping hand, it is improving, and thank you for being part of the solution, not part of the precipitate.
(DEAR LJ, PLEASE USE THE RIGHT ICON. THANK YOU.)
March 29 2012, 23:41:09 UTC 5 years ago
Please don't make the Aeslin Mice cross over with Toby. It would be ... um, what's the cross between messy and awesome?
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And thank you.
March 29 2012, 21:00:24 UTC 5 years ago
This is also why it didn't mean a single thing to me when Rowling said that Dumbledore was gay. So what? She's using her authorial Word of God to say so, but she never bothered to put word one of it in the books, so what does it matter at that point?
March 31 2012, 19:15:28 UTC 5 years ago
I also don't know if wizarding schools in England have the bigots like we've got in America, where you probably have to keep your gayness under cover if you teach children.
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Oh wait. That was my latest crazy train.
He is a VERY GOOD guy. And man, the good stuff waiting for all us when he catches up with you will be amazing. I'm sure of it.
(GREAT post, thanks.)
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Well, than, I am glad I have made you feel feelings.
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I'll keep this in mind when I'm casting my novels.
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Is there any reason not to use "protagonist" and "love interest" (or "romantic lead") as the gender neutral terms?
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Also, I feel compelled to mention that the teenage heroine of my current WIP is a bisexual blonde adventuring in a fantasy world where the first culture she encounters has a polyamorous marriage-system where everyone marries everyone, and the second is a matriarchy. Which is one of the things I love about being an author: you get to put the things you want to read about into actual books! Huzzah!
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This makes me happy.
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Ah, good point about that book. I nitpicked it to death (it practically takes place in my backyard, so I was hyper-critical of the setting), but it did a lot of things right, and those were two of them.
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And Heinlein illustrates one way to write the characters you want, become so popular and lucrative that publishers will buy anything you care to submit. By the latter half of his writing career, his published work depicted free love (before it was cool), polygamy, incest, bisexuality, and even transsexual characters (of a sort) as far back as 1958.
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