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Thoughts on graciousness.

Recently, I got to meet An Author* who was hugely important to me as a child and young teen. The Author was settling in for a signing, which is, in my admittedly skewed little mind, the only time when it's totally appropriate to go "OH MY GREAT PUMPKIN IT'S YOU OH MY GREAT PUMPKIN I LOVE YOUR WORK OH MY GREAT PUMPKIN YOU MOLDED MY BRAIN AND NOW I AM A GROWNUP ADULT WHO WRITES THE BOOKS AND TELLS THE STORIES AND IT'S PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF YOU OH MY GREAT PUMPKIN." (This is accompanied by vibrating and doleful resistance of the urge to make with the flappy hands.)

I waited until The Author was properly settled, and then went up, introduced myself, flailed a bit, and said, with deep sincerity, "I've read everything."

Without missing a beat, and without laughing or otherwise tempering the statement, The Author replied, "No, you haven't."

It wasn't nicely said. It wasn't kindly said. It was just said, flatly and declaratively, like I would tell you to remove the dead rat from my kitchen table.

I was, to be absolutely honest, floored. The rest of the interaction was awkward and strained, and I walked away feeling utterly dismissed. I had been looking for a moment of connection with someone whose work had been enormously important to my life. I wound up wondering if I should have apologized for my enthusiasm, like I had somehow broken a rule. And that isn't how it's supposed to be.

I've been on both sides of this table. I've done signings where I was tired, where I had a headache, where my feet hurt so badly from pounding pavement all day that I just wanted to crawl back to my hotel room and die (guess which of these was at the San Diego Comic Convention). I know that sometimes, the last thing in the world you want is icepick enthusiasm drilling another hole in your head.

But.

If you have come to see me, unless I am so sick that you're getting hand sanitizer with your signature, I feel that I should answer your enthusiasm with a smile, and say "thank you" until I turn blue in the face. I am my own person when I'm not behind an autographing table. I have likes and dislikes and opinions, and even my best friends in the whole world sometimes make me want to hit them with a shoe. I get grumpy, I get crabby, I threaten to ignite the biosphere. If you accost me on my way to the bathroom, I probably won't be all that charming. I'm a human being, not whatever creator/author construct you may have in your head. When I sit down behind a table and pick up a pen, that changes.

When I am seated behind an autographing table, you get to expect my attention (although how focused it is will be heavily influenced by how hard it is to spell your name). You get to tell me how much you loved (or hated) my most recent book, how much you loved (or hated) that plot twist, whatever it is you want. And yeah, if you tell me you're planning to murder me in an alley, I'll holler for security so fast that you'll believe my teenage scream queen dreams came true, but that's an extreme case.

I'm sure that I, and every author, will eventually cause a fan to walk around feeling the way I felt when I met one of my childhood idols. Sometimes the tired gets through; sometimes the cranky shows. But I am going to hold fast to that feeling, and do my best to remember that graciousness counts, especially when I'm behind that table. Because one harsh word changes everything.

(*Names withheld to protect the innocent, and because "oh oh oh it was THIS PERSON OVER HERE" is sort of counter to the point.)
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Hmm. It sounds to me like the author was trying to make a deadpan joke. Possibly about how he/she has more in the pipeline. I can totally see myself giving the same response (though I would probably add a nervous laugh).

Sometimes jokes do not translate properly due to poor delivery. I'm sorry you had this bad experience. :(
That was my first thought, too. I sort of sputtered and tried to laugh it off. The rest of the encounter continued in the same vein, until I walked away feeling just horribly rejected.

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seanan_mcguire

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seanan_mcguire

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gmdreia

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seanan_mcguire

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palmer_kun

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thedragonweaver

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Thoughtfully put.
Yeah, that's... well, that seems to go way beyond being tired and crabby. That goes all the way into just plain rude.

I would say that when a writer is at a signing, that's "work time." It's when you need to be polite and civil because you're working, the same as anyone would if they were at their place of business. Writers have every right to be tired and crabby and sick and to NOT expect to be accosted and treated inappropriately in non-work locations (like the bathroom), but to just be out-and-out rude to someone who is, in fact, your customer, and who has come to you while you are in work-space, just seems WRONG to me.
Exactly.
I've met -that- author. It may not have been the same author, but they were exactly the same in attitude. Said author is infamous in the fandom for acting this way. Said author had also been my favorite as a young adult. =p

In other news, the library has One Salt Sea waiting for me! Totally excited!
That makes me sad. :(

And this makes me happy! Yay, OSS!
I recall that when you were at Arisia, despite privations and Horrible Toxic Perfume Assaults, you were absolutely sparkling, and I have my signed Night gleefully tucked away somewhere safe.

*sends e-hugs, to be used or re-gifted as you wish*
"at Arisia, despite privations and Horrible Toxic Perfume Assaults"

OMFG. I ran into the same thing at Boskone. I had to carry freaking migraine pills on me because the perfume was so bad. But it seems to be -- well, maybe not a Boston thing, but I have never ever ever run into it in Seattle/Portland, much to my great glee and relief. I can actually go into a movie theatre on release night here!

seanan_mcguire

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archangelbeth

5 years ago

seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

seen both sides of the table (I have been a Minion doing Author Wrangling) and yes, it could have been handled better ...

Sorry that your Idol was cracked at the base that day..
Me, too.
I've been impressed not just with your continued graciousness but with your energy and enthusiasm at the events I've seen you sign at. I'm sorry this author didn't live up to your example.
At an event, even a one-hour signing, I am at work, and you are my customer. I need to be shiny for you. It's my job.
Clearly, the correct response is "No you haven't... because there's stuff LOCKED IN MY BRAIN." Then you produce the bone saw and electro-clamps....
Agreed. That's just funny, not rude.

seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

Goodness gracious, s/he may be a fine author, but what a dick. [hugs]
I love this comment and the icon that goes with it. SO MUCH.

seanan_mcguire

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I was stupid sick, but I was there for being nice. I am glad I did right by you.
If you accost me on my way to the bathroom, I probably won't be all that charming.

Actually it wasn't that bad...

Me: SEANAN!!!!
you: BATHROOM!!!
Me: ok!

Then I went and lay in wait for you at your next panel - where you were suitably charming (well, as charming as it is possible to be when discussing ways to survive a zombie apocalypse)

BTW - Chicago Public Library has a Readers survey today. They asked for a favorite book and a favorite author. I spread the love and listed someone else's book, but you as author.
I remember that! And see, that wasn't charming, but it was acceptable, in part because you know me, you know?

wendyzski

5 years ago

seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

That really stinks, but it is good that you're trying to give the benefit of the doubt.

I generally try.

kyburg

October 5 2011, 17:14:14 UTC 5 years ago Edited:  October 5 2011, 17:18:21 UTC

I met Kage Baker at a LATFOB one year, before she passed away. Brilliant lady.

She fucking hated me.

...such is life. I was not her cup of tea that day, and nothing more.

And I am sorry - it really hurts and you have nowhere else to go with it except to remind yourself they only got those three minutes of your life and what REALLY does that tell anyone about you?

(Same day, Cory Doctorow and I think he'd still be happy to see me today if we crossed paths again. I <3 the man, I seriously do.)

OH: and please, comment amnesty applies here. And my experience is not your experience is not their experience and so forth.
I would call that "name changed to protect the guilty" not the "innocent." Down here in the south we call that being ugly.
Fair.
I'm sorry your experience was disappointing. I worry about meeting some of my old favourite authors, especially when I haven't seen how they interact with fans.

However, I do look forward to meeting you one day because I know, even without this post, that you put your heart into everything and that I can look forward to having your attention for that small moment. :)
Aw, yay. :)
Oh, and I would have been SORELY tempted to ask, "Excuse me, but what haven't I read?"
Heh.
I used to be a community relations manager for B&N, meaning I organized book signings, and I've worked with authors ranging from self-published and pushy to celebrity and gracious, and everything in between. It's so disappointing when an author one admired turns out to be a huge jerkwad; I had an experience with one particular author that so soured me on him that I couldn't finish the book of his that I was in the middle of, and when he appeared on Castle I was feh-ing at the TV. But I've also been very pleasantly surprised at times, and had authors I expected to be huge divas turn out to be completely lovely.

I'm glad you are one of the lovely ones. If you are ever in Las Vegas, I'd be delighted to come to a signing.
I certainly hope to be there someday!

nightfalltwen

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misreall

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seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

Does it seem to you that you have at all re-evaluated your view of $_Author's work as a result of this encounter?

I ask partly because I know I have been so influenced by learning more about an author, whether by meeting them, or by being in the audience when they are on a panel or give a reading. I feel as if I have a little more idea what the author's point of view is, and read what they have writing in this light. Once or twice I have found the mental point of view to enjoy something that I had previously missed the point of.

I reckon I'd find myself unconsciously re-evaluating after such an encounter.
I'm not Seanan (obviously) but for me, an author being an asshole doesn't usually make me dislike anything I have already read and enjoyed unless there were things that bothered me about a work which I overall enjoyed that have now become sadly and unpleasantly clear.

For instance, Orson Scott Card's handling of female characters and gay characters, which suddenly all made sense once I knew what he really thought--or some of John C Wright's attitudes toward emotional/mental disability, not to mention the complete lack of alternate sexualities in a world where people were genetically altering themselves to be/do all kinds of odd things, yet none of this completely normal behaviour took place. JKR's gender politics, too, though they are immensely less awful than those of either those two jackanapes.

On the other hand, I will never read SM Stirling because he was such a jackrod to me on the Bujold list about a topic I care a whole lot about--the rights of kids and teens--and I killfiled him because I intend to go the rest of my life without ever having to read/see/hear another word he says. So if I haven't read an author, and they're a jackanapes, they've just ensured that it will stay that way.

But it does have to be major jackassery.

There's a major YA author who humiliated me a little for getting the name of my favourite character slightly wrong at the end of a long day and who has always struck me as a bit of an egotistical asshat, but I have no plans to girlcott him or name him, because I know I'm a bit oversensitive to personal embarrassment and also because while I'm no great fan of him as an individual, I still think his books are fantastic, and being a great artist isn't always the same as being a nice person--I can live with him not being nice, it's not the same as if he were homophobic, racist, ageist, cissexist or ableist. He's just kind of a jerk, and he may not be that way to everyone. (On the other hand, he has several series and I'm only a fan of one--it has NOT, let me tell you, made me want to run out and get all the others right away.)

wendyzski

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tiferet

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seanan_mcguire

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stakebait

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tiferet

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aineotter

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seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

I agree with all of this. I always remember what Matt Fraction said at Comic-Con last year: it's the least he could do, coming to a con and signing shit. You put on a smile, make your readers happy, it's the least you can do. I'm sorry this particular author was so dismissive. Signings can be rough on both sides, but both sides have certain obligations in their behavior to keep it from being so.
Matt Fraction is a wise, wise man.
It's always saddening when this happens, and slightly baffling. Because, as you say, a little graciousness goes a long way, and in the end, it's readers who keep writers going. And yet it's surprisingly common: I once heard a Big Name writer be horribly patronising to an invited child audience. I wonder if any of them were still fans when they left?
I tend to be startled if anyone seems to know who I am, which has its own problems, mind you. (Except with the bathroom instances. Then I'm brisk, because, well...)
Peeing is important!
That's sad. :(

I get that authors have bad days, and maybe, hopefully, it was just a bad day, but this is the sorta reason I am always scared to express great glee and joy at meeting one of my idols. One, I don't want to impose, but two, I have had authors I love and adore and respect let me down in some rather astonishing ways (the author who accused me on her blog about lying about my relationship and that I was just fooling myself that my trans partner was ever going to amount to anything but a "woman with a penis" was ESPECIALLY EPICALLY BAD), and... well, while I doubt anything would ever be as personal as that particular incident, I really... hate having that sorta thing happen.

There are some authors who just should not interact with fans. Really. And I wish more realized that and put their foot down and didn't do public appearances. I'm put in mind of a Certain Big Name Fantasy Author who told a group of fans that his books had Christian themes and if you weren't a Christian, you would not "understand" his work and shouldn't bother reading him. Yeah.

I'm sorry you had to deal with that. I hate that kind of disappointment, and it's hard to ever think of authors in the same light again after they've done things like that. :(
I'm put in mind of a Certain Big Name Fantasy Author who told a group of fans that his books had Christian themes and if you weren't a Christian, you would not "understand" his work and shouldn't bother reading him. Yeah.

Mr. Big Name Fantasy Author? Hi, I've got the ghost of C.S. Lewis here on line 2, who wants to pass on this message: "Christian themes. You're doing it wrong."

black_faery

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elialshadowpine

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tiferet

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elialshadowpine

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tiferet

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elialshadowpine

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tiferet

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elialshadowpine

5 years ago

Mow... manymuch sorry that happened. :(
Thanks. :(

andpuff

October 5 2011, 17:35:08 UTC 5 years ago Edited:  October 5 2011, 17:36:23 UTC

I live in terror that a bad day will leak out at a signing and I will be rude -- hopefully inadvertantly -- to someone who pays my bills by forking over hard earned cash for things I make up. I just hope that whoever I may do that to is able to say, "That was kind of pissy." and I can apologise. Although, when I was on the other side of the table, all I could do was slink away and lick my wounds...

I am sorry you had that experience though, not only because you're you but because passion should be celebrated.
I think living in terror probably helps a bit with not actually doing the thing. It means you're aware of the risk.
What a shame! It will be hard not to let this interaction color your opinion of the author's works, but if you truly enjoy them as much as they will never have the chance to know, I hope you are still able to enjoy them (albeit perhaps from your local library or second hand bookstore.)

I really wish more people prescribed to Wil Wheaton's oh-so-simple rule of "Don't Be A Dick." It would make the world a far more pleasant and productive place.
Wil Wheaton's guide to conventions is one that I strongly believe anyone who is going to an event should read! (Guests/attendees/agents/stewards etc.)

seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

It's always unfortunate when you run into that sort of thing. I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. *hug*
*hug*

Thanks, honey.
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