Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
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ONE SALT SEA open thread!

To celebrate the release of One Salt Sea, here. Have an open thread to discuss the book.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned.

You can also start a book discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence.

Have fun!
Tags: one salt sea, toby daye
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seanan_mcguire

September 7 2011, 18:41:28 UTC 5 years ago

Support your hypothesis.

cupcakery

September 7 2011, 19:09:20 UTC 5 years ago

These two parts:

“Not even the High King could go easy on me now. Could he?” None of us said anything. Fury contorted her face as she turned to aim her bow at Quentin, shouting, “Could he?!”

“No,” Quentin said. I shifted to get a look at him. He was standing with his chin up and his shoulders squared, staring down the length of his nose at Raysel. “But he could show clemency. You didn’t mean to kill the Selkie. You could be granted a sentence other than death.”

and

“War,” I said, and closed my eyes for a moment, willing myself not to cry. “This is why it’s bad, Raj. Remember this, for when you’re King someday. People get hurt.”

“I’ll remember,” whispered Raj.

“So will I,” said Quentin.

wendyzski

September 7 2011, 19:32:34 UTC 5 years ago

*points* That one.

tiferet

September 7 2011, 19:40:56 UTC 5 years ago

yup :)

bloolark

September 7 2011, 19:58:32 UTC 5 years ago

I'd have to dig up the first book, but he's also almost certainly from Toronto (Toby pegged the accent), where the NA King is.

(Love the fact that faeries rule from my adopted city! :))

tereshkova2001

September 7 2011, 20:39:53 UTC 5 years ago

R&R, page 31 “He had a very faint accent. Whoever [Quentin] answered to now, he’d started life somewhere in or near Toronto.”

bloolark

September 7 2011, 21:09:17 UTC 5 years ago

Thanks! That was what I was thinking of. :)

tereshkova2001

September 7 2011, 21:53:03 UTC 5 years ago

Raj and Quentin both being Kings, right there. (page 330 of the OSS ARC)

They're gonna be real mighty Kings, so enemies beware.
"I've never seen a King of Cats with friends that are that Fair."
They're gonna be the Fae event
Like no kings were before
They're watching 'toons and playing games
And Toby's keeping score.

*ducks*

Additionally, in Late Eclipses, the Queen of the Mists is suspicious of Toby's pardon:. Page 370: “From King Sollys, no less. Fascinating. I didn’t know he kept such close tabs on what goes on in our little Kingdom.” This time her gaze was for Sylvester, moon-mad eyes filled with suspicion. He met that look without flinching. Maybe he cheated by requesting that pardon, his look said but she’d cheated first by requiring it.
It occurs to me that one reason the High King was quick to pardon Toby might be that he trusts Sylvester's judgement well enough to foster his son there.

cupcakery

September 7 2011, 23:20:42 UTC 5 years ago

*dead of laughter*

I only had the ebook version of OSS open for quote-finding. But yeah, I remembered that, too. The evidence is all stacking up.

wendyzski

September 7 2011, 23:51:51 UTC 5 years ago

AND and the end of LE, who was called forward to present the pardon to the Queen, with a big-ass grin on his face?

Oh, that would have been.....QUENTIN!

I'm pretty sure that Sylvester sent him as part of the delegation to acquaint Their Majesties with the situation. As a Squire he probably didn't go alone, but I suspect he was sent as a point of "please take this seriously" and I suspect he got a thorough grilling from Mum and Dad once Official Court was over.

Plus, that would have saved Sylvester from having to deal with him stressing out over things while they were gone and Toby was still unconscious.

archangelbeth

September 7 2011, 22:47:29 UTC 5 years ago

Oh, very nice supports. Didn't even notice those. Thank you!

I was probably subconsciously assuming Quentin had Schrödinger's Parents, to be determined when it became necessary for the plot. But between this and some of the others, it does seem that he's got, instead, carefully-laid hints.

Or else maybe those are red herrings and actually he's Toby's brother. *ducks, runs*

wendyzski

September 7 2011, 23:52:50 UTC 5 years ago

OK, I think "Schrödinger's Parents" is now my new favorite phrase!

archangelbeth

September 8 2011, 01:45:41 UTC 5 years ago

Feel free to abscond with it to your heart's (or hearts', if you be a Time Lord) delight. O:>

seanan_mcguire

September 8 2011, 17:54:16 UTC 5 years ago

I know who his parents are; I have always known.

Someday, you will know, too.

archangelbeth

September 8 2011, 21:19:46 UTC 5 years ago

Looking forward to it!!!

ravenclawed

September 8 2011, 22:29:02 UTC 5 years ago

Can't wait! I just hope they can appreciate what Toby's teaching their son. And I really hope it wasn't his parents that taught him the lesson about purebloods needing to keep changelings in line that he was quoting in the first book.

ironed_orchid

September 30 2011, 00:22:30 UTC 5 years ago

You know everyone's parentage. People should remember this.

And one day I would like to see the family tree(s).

mariadkins

September 9 2011, 00:08:41 UTC 5 years ago

indeed!