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Mass hysteria in smart people: toys aren't worth it.

Every year in July, I go to the San Diego International Comic Convention. It's huge, it's crowded, it's complicated, it's messy, and it's still, for all its faults, one of my favorite conventions (the other being OVFF). I love SDCC. I've been going since I was a teenager, and if the con has changed, well, so have I. I can be happy there. I feel like the rest of the world gets to wait a little while.

Which is not to say that the con is without its problems. One, that's been getting more extreme with every passing year, is the issue of THE COMICON EXCLUSIVE (dun-dun-DUUUUUN). These are toys made for and offered solely at the con. They can't be obtained anywhere else. There have been My Little Ponies, special perfumes from the Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab, and action figures, action figures, action figures. Oh, the action, oh the figures, without end. Collectors swarm the exhibit hall the second it opens, rushing to get the exclusives on their list.

I, it must be said, am no different. I went to SDCC 2011 with the following exclusives on my list: diamond form Bishojo Emma Frost, Waid-era Bishojo Susan Storm, the SDCC 2011 My Little Pony, and the Deadfast cosplay Ghoulia Yelps. I got there early on Wednesday, and hit the floor while the throngs were at their lowest pre-Sunday ebb, ready to stand in lines, fork over cash, and get my goodies. There is nothing wrong with being a collector of things. I have been a collector of things my whole life. Some of the things I collect now, I started collecting when I was four years old. Four years old. My ability to throw stones at collectors died a long damn time ago.

That being said, there are limits.

People were getting mean this year. There was a weird sort of mass hysteria sweeping the floor, where totally reasonable, rational people that I would normally enjoy having a chat with suddenly became consumed by the crazy-pants need to be at THE FRONT OF THE LINE RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Part of this may be due to the steady increase in toy scalpers, people who come to SDCC just to buy the exclusives and resell them on eBay at a hefty markup. Think I'm kidding? Look at eBay. The Monster High doll I bought for twenty dollars two weeks ago now has a base "buy it now" of sixty dollars...and people are paying it. The market has stabilized, and the people who bought as much as they could carry at the convention are reaping the benefits.

Because the scalpers were clearing things out as quickly as they could, the people who wanted those toys for their own collections acquired a new sense of urgency—suddenly, it wasn't "walk briskly," it was "run." And when the scalpers started running, too, "run" turned into "stampede."

Saturday, after being asked to pick up a Monster High doll for a friend, Amy and I went over to the Mattel booth to get in line. The line was...ugly. Basically, a single guard was doing crowd control at the mouth of the actual line, and letting people in one at a time, right to left. Amy and I were on the far left; four people literally shoved past us to get into the line before we could. Shoved past us. But we were there for girl toys (which always sell slower than boy toys), so we waited until we could get past the guard, and we got into the lineup without major incident.

About six people behind us in line (and thus right next to us, due to the amusement park ride setup being used for people moving) was a mother and her seven-year-old daughter. The daughter was pretty clearly upset. The daughter was also dressed as Draculaura, one of the major characters from Monster High. I asked what they were in the line for, and guessed that it might be Ghoulia. The little girl, still looking miserable, confirmed.

I asked her mother what was wrong.

"We've tried to get into this line four times," she replied.

Why so many tries? Because people were pushing her child. People were stepping on her child. So when the crowd was crazy, they had to withdraw—no doll is worth injuring a little kid, period. And the girl was, naturally, very concerned that she wouldn't be able to get her toy.

I asked the mother if they wanted to go ahead of me. She looked stunned. She asked, several times, if I was sure; Amy and I both affirmed that, if one of us was getting the last Monster High doll, we wanted it to be the little girl. (None of the six people between us and the kid were there for Monster High toys; like most collectors, they wanted the "boy toys," which always sell out before anything else.) We let the girl and her mother go ahead of us...and the mother's level of gratitude was so far out of proportion with the cost of the gesture that it made me want to go around yelling at people. Don't step on kids! Cheese and crackers, that's just common sense!

Most of the kids at SDCC are very well-behaved, possibly because they're too terrified by the size of the crowd to do anything else. It's pretty easy to believe that the bogeyman will get you if you're bad when you can see the bogeyman, he's right over there and he's buying comic books. Maybe he needs a snack! It could be you. So they're pretty cool, those con kids, the next generation of our species. I mean, unless someone in a giant Perry the Platypus costume has just walked by. There are limits.

And I'm not saying kids get everything. I didn't give the girl my toy, I just let her go ahead of me to get hers. But there are moments where you really need to pause and ask yourself "is my eBay profit worth stepping on this little girl?" And if the answer is ever "yes," maybe it's time for some serious soul searching.

Here's a goal for all of us who are planning to attend San Diego Comic Convention 2012: let's not be dicks. And when we're buying cool stuff, let's make sure we're buying it for ourselves or our friends, not for our burgeoning eBay business. Okay?

Cool.
Tags: cranky blonde is cranky, don't be dumb, post-con, toys are nice
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These are the reasons I no longer go to San Diego. I used to be a frequent flier, but when I had to crawl under a line to avoid being crushed after picking up tickets, that was enough. This was 2007.

Cath
Guh.

Yeah, I can understand that.
I suspect that you're preaching to the converted, mostly. But if it reaches even one idiot it will have done some good.

It's why I don't go to anything like that. The only 'media' con to which I go is Redemtion, which is run by mainstrean conrunning fen (a lot of whom run the annual UK Eastercon and work on Worldcons, and the like), and often they don't even have an actor guest (they prefer the behind-scenes people like scriptwriters, costumers, stuntpeople, techies, etc.). While British media cons seem mild in comparison with your description the fans waiting for autographs from famous actors can get nasty enough.
I think you're right, but it bothered the crap out of me.

keristor

5 years ago

seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

The constant cry at Cubs games..."Give the ball to a kid".
I mean, I wish it wasn't universal. Some things mean as much, if not more, to adults, and for my friend Shawn who loves the Red Sox more than he loves his own internal organs, giving up that ball would be like giving up his heart. But it's something that should always be considered.

tempestteapot

5 years ago

seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

The only con I've been to is the NY Comic-Con/Anime Fest (they seem to have been combined) and while there were a lot of crowds and long lines it wasn't nearly as bad as you've described SDCC.

No collectible is worth hurting a kid.
Yeah, that's a much smaller convention. And very little in this universe is worth hurting a kid. Collectibles are nowhere near that weight class.

scifantasy

5 years ago

wake_the_dragon

5 years ago

scifantasy

5 years ago

wake_the_dragon

5 years ago

Yeh, this year there was some sort of madness going on.

When the line for SDCC shirts were longer than the line for the Guild, you know somethings wrong.

At least they're having on-line reg for 2013 since the 2012 line was not even called for.

I hope the Convention Center Expansion helps...
It was insane. And something better start helping, soon.

rkbwrites

5 years ago

seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

I've never been to SDCC, but I'm hoping to go next year. And I will definitely follow Wheaton's Law: Don't Be A Dick.
That was running through my head as I was reading!

seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

Wow. It sounds like, well, maybe the SDCC organizers need to see this (is there a way to Email it to them)? and maybe, I hate to say it, they need to start imposing some rules to prevent asshattery.

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seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

Cheese and crackers, that's just common sense!
I see you've been taking exclamation lessons from the Middleman.

Thank you for being a nice person. I let a twelve-year-old kid cut in front of me so he could meet John Romita, Jr., and he asked me several times whether it was okay, and his grandmother took a picture of him with me because apparently I was so awesome.
I have. I feel no shame.

You, too, are a nice person, and that is AWESOME.

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I'm glad at least part of the con was nice and relaxed for you.

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Not wearing your backpack kind of defeats the purpose of having a backpack.

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lysystratae

5 years ago

seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

Holy sheep, wow. That's...not okay. Really, really not okay. Wow.

The kindness to the little girl makes me smile. Putting a little more good in the world is never bad.
For some people it's clearly nothing but a business trip, but even they have no excuse for the behavior you've described.
Agreed.
I waited uh... 4 hours in line for 2012 tickets for comic-con, out of whim I picked up preview-night since it was available. I'm afraid to see what preview night is like next year. o_____o

The Wizards of the Coast booth changed their giveaway policy after in 2010 some guy in a backpack stepped on my foot and dragged me about 5 feet when he was reaching for a magic card.

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seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

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You will!
That's... amazing, in an appalling kind of way.

Would the sellers be able to calm things down a bit if they limited their sales to, say, not more than 2 per person per trip-through-the-queue? So they wouldn't get cleaned out quite so quickly?

oooshiny

August 3 2011, 17:40:32 UTC 5 years ago Edited:  August 3 2011, 17:40:57 UTC

they do limit their sales to 2 or 4 per person. In addition Mattel stopped selling to exhibitors on Preview Night to (I hope) prevent the resale of the toys the following day, even with the limits per person, the lines are really long until mid Saturday :(

tiferet

5 years ago

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seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

I'm glad you and Amy were there.
Nothing but nothing is going to get me to something like SDCC. Claustrophobic writer is claustrophobic.
This. For me, SDCC is just a panic attack waiting to happen.

seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

All it takes is one asshat to ruin it for other people.
Word.
People who assault children should be in jail. WTF. I mean it. I know con security are overworked and I imagine they are largely volunteers but this is the kind of thing that they need to be keeping under control, and letting people know that they will call the police if need be. :(

I don't think it's morally wrong or bad to buy things for resale as long as you don't overdo it and get GREEDY. It's nice for collectors who can't go to events to have a chance to get things, and there have been times in my life when the only way I could afford to go to cons, or to Japan, was to bring stuff back and sell it. But I've NEVER bought five of a limited item and marked them up 300%. That's pure dickery.

The only way I'm ever going to buy five of something and mark them up 300% is if I find deadstock in an out-of-the-way store at original retail price; at that point I figure everyone else has had their chance. I did once finance an entire trip in the 90s after finding the motherlode of old Japanese Sailor Moon dolls on a sidestreet in Chinatown.

But I also don't understand why sellers who know there are 1000 people in line to buy 500 items are willing to sell 5 of them to the first in line (and I think those people are more likely to be reading this and to think about what is said here than child-stomping dickwads). You can say that they need to make money but if 1000 people are lined up they're going to make their money even if they turn the scalpers away--they can and should grow a pair of whatever and say no to people who want to buy 5 Ghoulias that there are only 1000 and there are more than 1000 people here, so sorry, you can't.

Lolita brands do a lot of limited releases. There are tons of people who WOULD behave like this (I've met them) if they could get away with it, but the shops don't let them. Some of their strategies for crowd control are pretty dickish* but there are two that I heartily endorse:

1) Not selling stuff to people who camp out in front of the store, behave like jerks in the store, and so on; and

2) Limiting how many of the limited items people are allowed to buy. If Angelic Pretty does a limited edition print in three colours you can't go in there and buy a dress, sleeveless dress and skirt in each colour just because you got there first. You can buy two main items, period, and one set of accessories that goes with each. (Main items are dresses, sleeveless dresses and skirts.) When Baby the Stars Shine Bright does grab bags and throws $400 worth of stuff in a bag that they sell for $150 and $100 for $30, you can only buy ONE bag at each price point. That means if I want to sell a bag to pay for another bag, I have to make the adult decision of which bag I want to keep without even opening them.

These are sound strategies for preventing nasty people from showing us all how low they can go--and for preventing people from shorting themselves on sleep, food and water to stand in lines for so long they become people they wouldn't recognise or like if they realised it. It does mean that people who sell their AP limited edition dresses sell them at a markup, because the dress they sell is one that they don't get to wear, but it also keeps teenage girls from having catfights at 4 AM on Kearny Street over a place in line to buy dresses and it keeps those of us who work normal jobs from not getting a dress because teenage girls CAN get up at 4 AM and sit on Kearny Street until the shop opens even if it is a weekday.

* Dickish, not recommended strategies: Only selling rare/limited items at special parties to which only people who dropped $30-100 at your store in the past month are invited; it's fine to have those parties and let people meet the designers, but a 15 year old who has saved for 6 months to buy a $300 dress for her prom shouldn't have to buy a bag the month before to get a chance to buy it. Not allowing people who don't want to buy a dress or skirt because it doesn't come in their size to buy one pair of socks or one headbow out of the limited collection without buying a dress or skirt which they HAVE to scalp because they can't wear it.

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seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

tiferet

5 years ago

seanan_mcguire

5 years ago

Thank you for your SDCC "report". Thank you also for remembering human civility toward others isn't a privilege, it's a right. Unfortunately, most people do not understand that concept. Kids generally are good, but my experience selling at SDCC was a nightmare, and kids were my major shoplifters.:-( They would run (or shove quickly) through, snatch up poison rings, and be gone. This was in 2004. I tried to have rings secured by putting pencils through them under the ring tray, but it was such a hassle. When I took the pencils out, that's when the snatchers jostled by. And I didn't make much $$$ for all that trauma. Went back the next year, and was still able to buy a one day pass at the door! That was the last year that happened. Don't know if you saw this, but I found this to be very informative -Has SDCC...Jumped The Shark? http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2011/08/01/46870-a-look-back-has-comic-con-really-jumped-the-shark/
Huh.

Fascinating.
I've wanted to go to SDCC. Because lets see, 1)My favorite authors including YOU go there, 2)It's in CA, and I live far from the coast so I always long for the beach. 3) THERE IS AN AWESOME PONY EVERY YEAR!

I'm one of those people who go straight to Hasbro's overstock store to try and get the last couple ponies BEFORE they hit ebay so I can KEEP one. Sadly, I've had no luck in collecting them lately. The markup is too high! And I want it almost badly enough to pay 40$ on Amazon... but my wallet doesn't.
I hate to see SDCC resort to restricting the number of toys a person can buy, but SERIOUSLY. People who pay for tickets, and bring their kids, should at least know they'll be able to get their kid a toy that may well be a treasured keepsake for the rest of their life.
I love the SDCC Ponies. And I agree with you. I hate the resellers, and what they do to the attendees and collectors alike.
I am SO glad you did that. Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity.
It's my job!
SDCC was insane this year. I mean, having to stand in lines to get into a panel longer than the actual panel itself was? Frustrating beyond measure. I couldn't believe it.

Though generally I thought most people were cool in the lines, I guess when it comes to Shiny! people get a bit crazy and that's just not right.

I'm starting to wonder if it's worth going, the fun's starting to get leeched out of it.
I'm still having fun. But I also have a machete.

kippurbird

5 years ago

Kudos to you for being a decent human being. (Though it's sad that this is of note.)
Agreed. :(
In the book of Jekyll and Hyde, the way that Stephenson lets us know that his main character has become a monster is that he tramples a child and doesn't notice. I think that pretty much says it all.
Word.
If it'll help, I just made a photo-heavy post about everyone's favorite bratty cat, Risu.

On the subject of conventions, do you have any knowledge about whether you'll be a guest at Arisia in 2012? Or do they not plan that far ahead?
I do not know yet.

Risu makes life better.

alicetheowl

5 years ago

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