Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
Seanan McGuire
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DEADLINE open thread. Have a party.

To celebrate the release of Deadline [Amazon]|[Mysterious Galaxy], here. Have an open thread to discuss the book.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned.

You can also start a book discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence. I will probably answer a great many comments. I may not answer all of them.

Have fun!
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drcpunk

June 17 2011, 22:54:09 UTC 6 years ago

Alaric I get, but it annoys me. He raises what is actually a valid point -- that Shaun really is forgetting he's not the only one dealing with tragedy and is being selfish -- but, oh, that's not really the big problem. The big problem is he hurt Becks's feeling, and it's All His Fault, and this is nothing compared to abusing your co-workers, cuz guys hitting guys? It's what guys do.

My apologies if I'm misunderstanding Maggie, but my impression is that if he'd groveled one iota less or if he'd been genuinely interested in a long term relationship with Becks, but, in a moment of exhaustion following being on the run from the CDC following the whole past year, had called out George's name while falling asleep, he was rotten scum who deserved to die.

I also think, based on no evidence whatsoever, that if you change the genders of those involved, reactions change in some pretty interesting ways.

Then again, I thought I was done ranting. Amazing how this, out of everything in the book, is what gets my back up.

seanan_mcguire

June 20 2011, 18:15:21 UTC 6 years ago

I'm sorry that you got the impression that I was saying "guys hitting guys is okay" with that sequence. I was honestly trying to go by the people involved, and frankly, it was "Irwins hitting Irwins is okay," because that's how they're trained. Shaun didn't hit Becks largely because he knew she'd hand him his ass, and Dave often stepped into it to prevent anyone else getting involved.

Shaun did hit Alaric once. He was very sorry afterward. And would have behaved exactly the same if he and Georgia had been Shauna and George.

drcpunk

June 20 2011, 20:05:47 UTC 6 years ago

Actually, I got the impression you were saying, "Shaun is really fucked up." Beyond that, I was aware a couple of hot buttons of mine was going off, and that this probably had nothing to do with you, the hot buttons being:

a. Implications that Gender X must be perfect (X varying depending on who's doing the writing) (which I was fairly sure you weren't saying; hot button is hot) blurring with
b. Implications that the party in pain must be pacified no matter what (which I was well aware you weren't saying)
c. Specific Cases where the author was not you, and I was not inclined to give benefit of doubt. (Yes, Star Trek: TNG, I am thinking about the episode where the scripwriters and directors really do seem to believe that Geordie is right and the woman he's been shamelessly manipulating is a frigid bitch to be angry about this. And yes, ST:TNG, I could go on all day, finding other examples.)

And, as I said, I was unaware of the incest, unlike everyone in the book at that point.