Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
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DEADLINE open thread. Have a party.

To celebrate the release of Deadline [Amazon]|[Mysterious Galaxy], here. Have an open thread to discuss the book.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned.

You can also start a book discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence. I will probably answer a great many comments. I may not answer all of them.

Have fun!
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That's a complicated question, and part of why I sort of winced every time someone commented on how nice it was that Shaun and Georgia didn't need romantic interests. It's not that they didn't need them; it's that George was a very private person, and that wasn't the sort of thing she would share in a first-person narrative.

The short answer is "because they told me it was there." I actually tried to argue them out of it, and just kept getting contradicted by the fictional people. "It's icky." "We're not related." "It's inappropriate." "This isn't YA." "It's unnecessary." "No, it's not. Here are eight reasons why." "You were raised as brother and sister." "We were raised as props for photo opportunities."

So basically...it was there because it was there. I'm sorry it made you uncomfortable.
If I may ask, how early did they tell you? Because I wondered, more than once, during the first book.

(And yeah, I just spoiled the living hell out of myself by reading this thread, but I'll have the book by Friday, and I don't know how this gets revealed, so there's still plenty left to shock me.)
Shaun is kidnapped by the CDC and is given a questionnaire consisting of one question:

Have you committed any sort of incest? We just like to know these things. You know. For science.
...that wasn't the question I was asking.

We've all seen posts from Seanan in the past where she said one variant or another of "I had no idea the book was going there until I wrote that sentence...." I was curious how early in the writing process Sean & Georgia told her they were sleeping together.
...I was jokingly answering how it gets revealed in the book.
Whether or not I thought you were actually revealing plot points (and having made the mistake of reading Transmetropolitan right after I woke up this morning, I'll admit the idea was at least plausible), that's still orthogonal to the point that I asked "When did the characters tell their writer" and you answered "When did the characters tell the audience."

That said, this is really something ridiculous to get hung up on, so I'm dropping it now. Sound good? ;-)
I think he was jokingly replying to the part of your comment that said "but I'll have the book by Friday, and I don't know how this gets revealed".

spectralbovine

6 years ago

*Pepsisnort*
I wondered too.

Even though incest in fiction is generally a squick for me (consensual or not; hell, consensually together stepsiblings have been a squick for me) somehow Shaun and Georgia aren't.
They're less siblings in the traditional sense than students at the same school from hell.
Yep! That's how I see it, since they were obviously from two different sets of parents, and were six weeks apart -- RL twins occasionally have birth delays, but not SIX WEEKS.

On the first read, I had my suspicions they were a couple.

On the second, they were firmed up, so seeing it confirmed here -- very gratifying in a weird sort of way.

Poor oblivious Shaun.

Poor clueless Becks who could've had Alaric if she wanted him.

Me too - it was "OK - not the healthiest emotional choice, but then again, NO ONE in these books is entirely emotionally healthy"
Kinda difficult to be emotionally healthy in the Mason household in particular, but in the post Rising world?

Shaun says as much -- crazy has kinda become redefined.

She still could. He's patient.
My take on it in Feed was... huh. Well, there's no mention of intimacy with anyone else, no suggestion that would even be possible. So if they're having sex, it's with each other. But that's Not My Business so I'm not gonna worry about it.
That's kind of Georgia's take. It's no one else's business, so she doesn't feel the need to describe it, any more than she describes every meal and every trip to the bathroom.
From a personal standpoint, I 100% agree.

It bothers me a bit that I had deliberately avoided thinking about a plot-relevant point, though. Gosh, I'm going to have to re-read Feed and look for other blind spots! The horror!

keristor

6 years ago

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6 years ago

silvertwi

6 years ago

lnbw

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seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

lnbw

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seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

Very, very early.

Like, when George said "and our bedrooms are connected."
I read that but so didn't get the meaning. I only twigged when I read this thread but good on the pair of them!

Also I can't wait to hear how their sexual relationship is vital to Blackout ... :D

BTW, I assume the fact Sean can't get through to Rick is also going to be very important in Blackout too? I miss Rick.
That was when I started going hmmm as a reader..... but the whole "Students at the same school from hell" thing is there too at the same time.

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Now I have to go back and re-read FEED to look for hints, which isn't exactly a hardship but I just did it 2 weeks ago getting ready for DEADLINE. My life is so hard.
I remember picking up on this on the first read through. It's definitely there.
It's very much there. A lot of Georgia's unpublished stuff. like the one where she goes "I got Shaun."

That's the first one that comes to mind, and the second is that Shaun would rather bunk in a hotel room with Georgia than with Rick.

So hard!