Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
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DEADLINE open thread. Have a party.

To celebrate the release of Deadline [Amazon]|[Mysterious Galaxy], here. Have an open thread to discuss the book.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned.

You can also start a book discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence. I will probably answer a great many comments. I may not answer all of them.

Have fun!
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So...why the incest exactly? I really really loved how close Shaun and Georgia were and how they watched out for each other. And now I just have an icky feeling about the whole thing.

I still enjoyed Deadline and can't wait for the next book, but it really put a damper on how much I loved the book.
I'm only 175 pages in but I really want to know... Georgia and Shaun had a sexual relationship? Ongoing?

I'm sure Seanan wrote it well but I just want to prepare myself as from the comments here, I'm a bit disturbed but always am with this kind of thing.

Remember, they aren't actually related, and had a sibling relationship only in the absolutely most technical terms. The Masons didn't raise them. They recorded them.
I just commented above, sorry. I didn't realize they weren't blood siblings. I tend to miss details like this.

That is a good point about their upbringing. They would have to be close as the support and love they could get was from each other. Societal norms were never imprinted as they grew up.

When you put it like that, I'm surprised they didn't act out more. Well, Shaun does go poke zombies with sticks but it looks good on tv.

Would love read more about Masons going from the happy family with Phillip to heartless people who adopt and raise kids to get good ratings. That's quite progression.
It's also interesting to me because, even though the Masons were horrible to Shaun & Georgia... they aren't cartoon villains. They aren't bad just so that our heroes can have bad parents. They're really really broken people.

We get to see a bit more of them, too, in Blackout...
What fascinates me, having seen the Rising snippets, is that they are awful parents/broken people who started out as strikingly intelligent, decent human beings. I'm pretty sure the pre-Rising Masons are people I'd have liked to know.
I wonder how much of the early Shaun and Georgia years were attempts to force healing by Mister and Missus Mason -- to pretend at being loving, not-messed-up parents in hopes that it would actually happen -- before gradually stopping to give a damn, especially after Georgia and Shaun caught on.

Granted, adopting two babies as Replacement Goldfish in hopes that it will somehow fix the problems you developed when you had to shoot your preschooler because you didn't know the neighbor's dogs were carriers is not the best idea, but it's something real people might do.
Or an attempt at reparations -- "look, we fucked up with our first kid, but at least we can pick out some kids and give them the childhood we should have been able to give him. It's our goddamn duty. We can afford to, we need to (and it wouldn't be a bad PR move either)."
They tried.

They did it wrong, but they tried.
Exactly. Georgia and Shaun are to some extent adolescents acting up to their parents. They have to fight to get away from them and remake themselves as adults but we only see their view of their parents and it is as distorted as any other child's view of their parents.
I always kind of wondered about people who lost a pet, were totally brokenhearted, and then got a new puppy 2 days later and Everything Is Just Fine Now! (Or worse, a few guys I met/heard of who immediately found replacement wives.) You can't help but think, "but doesn't this uh... back up on you somehow?"

And then you imagine it here with kids. Hoo boy.
Pretty much!
I remember when mneme's uncle remarried, I was torn. It had been two years or more, not two days, two weeks, two months. On the one hand, I very much loved the man's first wife. On the other, I was very glad he wasn't alone.