Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
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DEADLINE open thread. Have a party.

To celebrate the release of Deadline [Amazon]|[Mysterious Galaxy], here. Have an open thread to discuss the book.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned.

You can also start a book discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence. I will probably answer a great many comments. I may not answer all of them.

Have fun!
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herewiss13

June 1 2011, 23:53:49 UTC 6 years ago

Just got my copy today, haven't cracked it open yet (not reading spoilers). Showed it to my cubicle neighbor who snatched it up and immediately flipped to the end to make sure Sean survived (he felt very burned by Feed. >:-P ).

Unfortunately, when I took it back, I idly looked at the last sentence. ARRRGH!!! They're usually less telling than that. I have no idea how the HELL you're going to get from here to there (wherever "there" actually ends up being), but I imagine it'll be quite a ride. I may need to wait until the weekend so I can read the whole thing sans interuptions. Damn, pesky work-day, always getting in the way of higher callings...

seanan_mcguire

June 2 2011, 19:30:23 UTC 6 years ago

...whoooooooooooooops.

shiyiya

June 2 2011, 00:01:50 UTC 6 years ago

I would just like to state for the record that you are an evil, evil woman.

Also, "More things we learned from the Rising: It's hard to gentrify a city that's on fire." is an awesome line.

Oh - is Becks's blog name a reference to Into The Woods like it looks like? (That was a terrible sentence.) And is her going to Vassar a Narbonic reference? (I just reread Narbonic a couple days ago.)

amberfox

June 2 2011, 06:07:22 UTC 6 years ago

That's what I read it as, anyway. ("I was raised to be charming, not sincere.")

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brightlotusmoon

June 2 2011, 00:33:08 UTC 6 years ago

Just one question: When Shaun is talking about the year he and George were born, and then the year she died (when he shot her after she amplified), the math in my head kept slipping. In Feed, were they really only 15? Or am I reading dates wrong? How old are they in Deadline? And weren't their ages mentioned in Feed? I think it's because I keep seeing years like 2041 and all that... My memory is awful right now...

kittikins

June 2 2011, 01:00:59 UTC 6 years ago

I just sent an email about this- 2032, 2041... it is driving me crazy waiting for clarification. Glad I am not the only one who this stood out to, as I felt like I was missing something. I often do. :)

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murgyt

June 2 2011, 02:21:17 UTC 6 years ago

Finished D about 10 minutes ago. WOW!

1) How long has cloning tech been around? (And does this explain Elvis sightings?)

2) Did Becks forego her chance to be "Mother to the Saviour of the World" by fetching the condom?

3) If Africanized bees were bad, do KA bees mean they *never* quit coming?

4) Or worse, zombie yellowjackets?

5) Why can't Rick *PICKUP THE DANG PHONE*?

Big Conspiracy Theory 1: Shaun & Georgia were plants, especially cloned by the CDC (and their shadow masters) placed into the general pop to 'see what happens.' Various clone strains were sent out in a Darwinian attempt to find 'the right stuff'. (technical terms lacking here.)

Big Conspiracy Theory 2: Becks is secretly mind controlled by slaver wasps and any minute now will break out into spark-like behaviour - oops, sorry - not a GG story!

I loved it. And feared it. And I think I'm going to start keeping a machete under my bed. Just In Case.



jennygriffee

June 2 2011, 02:34:45 UTC 6 years ago

4) Or worse, zombie yellowjackets?

*cries forever*

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fatherofdragons

June 2 2011, 02:30:47 UTC 6 years ago

Finished. Wow oh wow oh wow. Also, wow.

And now I really hope the Candyland Movie has a marketing tie-in with Coca-Cola. Imagine cans of Coke with Princess Lolly on them...

amberfox

June 2 2011, 07:24:32 UTC 6 years ago

That would be beautifully wrong. I endorse this idea.

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idancewithlife

June 2 2011, 03:50:32 UTC 6 years ago

Not reading comments here yet, but, um, WOW, Seanan. By page 40 everything else I planned to do tonight was off the table. I'm not sure what I expected but you blew all my expectations out of the water. Feed was one of the best books I've ever read. Deadline is better.

seanan_mcguire

June 3 2011, 15:30:23 UTC 6 years ago

Yay!

evaleastaristev

June 2 2011, 04:51:22 UTC 6 years ago

I've been searing at you since page 83 of the Nook version of the eBook. Some of that has been in my head, some has been out loud, and some of it has been over twitter.

But you know I loves you!

And the sneak peek at Blackout? Why must you make the wait that much harder!!!!!!!!

Some day, you and I are going to have to break all the rules, go out to a nice dinner, and talk about disease all night. It will be glorious, and disturbing, and it won't be over until they kick us out!

seanan_mcguire

June 3 2011, 15:30:46 UTC 6 years ago

I actually didn't want to include the sample chapter; I wanted to leave you with that last line for a year. Orbit thought I might get death threats.

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jane_dark

June 2 2011, 05:36:20 UTC 6 years ago

One of the things that I love about Deadline is that even though I already want to read Blackout, I know that I'll be able to reread Deadline repeatedly over the next year (as I've reread Feed in the last one) and get more out of it each time.

Thank you.

seanan_mcguire

June 3 2011, 15:30:55 UTC 6 years ago

Very welcome.

paradisacorbasi

June 2 2011, 06:36:05 UTC 6 years ago

Finished at 1:45 my time.

Reviews posted to Goodreads, Facebook, my DW and my LJ.

And that said:


Ouch, man. We couldn't just find out Shaun was sleeping with Georgia some other way. But at least he had enough self control not to scream George's name en flagrante. Glad Becks got that much. Yeesh.

I adore Mahir. I love him to bits. Too bad his wife Nan doesn't seem to be on board.

I wanted to like Kelly so much after the events of the first book. And by the time she died in Memphis, I did. I admire you for that even as I am very displeased with you for making me go from hating her to liking her just before killing her.

Alaric kinda got on my nerves.

The bulldogs were adorable and cute.

Voice!Georgia rocked, even as it made me whimper and wince for poor Shaun, knowing his sanity slippage got worse if she went from italics to in quotes.

Maggie rocks too.

And could you have been more cruel describing the delicious Indian dinner?

You made my unexpected allergy attack day much better, thank you and WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR FOR BLACKOUT OMG OMG OMG


amberfox

June 2 2011, 07:23:36 UTC 6 years ago Edited:  June 2 2011, 07:24:02 UTC

Nan's probably expecting Shaun to get Mahir killed in some pointless (to her) and messy fashion and kind of wishes he'd fuck off. No luck there, but I expect that's what she wants.

(ETA: Eep! Icon switch.)

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trialia

June 2 2011, 12:36:38 UTC 6 years ago

I ADORE the epileptic teacup bulldogs. For serious. ;)

I read this book in less than a day - had to put it down every now and then to rest, since it's all so intense - but I couldn't let go of it. I love it. I'm not sure whether or not I prefer it to Feed - give me a couple more reads to see - but I definitely love it. I think I may prefer being on the inside of Georgia's head to Shaun's, though. I'm crazy enough already without that. :)

Incest is usually a major squick for me, and you let it out into the light so well in this one that I kept reading when I'd normally have quit there and then. And I'm still looking forward to Blackout. Even if it's not biological, their being raised as siblings makes it a bit weird for me, but I can handle this, I think, since it's done so damned well. ♥

I knew right from the paragraph about looking in the mirror that this was George, and that she had to be a clone, and I was SO not expecting that. Actually yelped out loud "wait, WHAT!?" and kept reading. And now I have thoughts about "what", but wow. Nice twist, Seanan.

seanan_mcguire

June 3 2011, 15:31:56 UTC 6 years ago

Thank you!

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groblek

June 2 2011, 14:09:03 UTC 6 years ago

Some quick reactions to the book, as I'm heading out the door (more detailed ones to follow sometime later)
1. You're EVIL.
2. The book is really good - also, you've found way too many ways to torment the Masons. :)
3. I really like Dr. Abbey
4. The quotes on the title page for the Coda - so very appropriate.
5. Now I REALLY want to see how you resolve all this - it's going to be quite a ride, I'm sure.

seanan_mcguire

June 3 2011, 15:32:08 UTC 6 years ago

Oh, thank you!

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herefox

June 2 2011, 18:45:35 UTC 6 years ago

I loved the book. When I got to the "She would have gotten better" part I blurted out "What!" much to the he chagrin of the people sitting next to me at the train station.

One thing I didn't quite understand, and it may be a addressed in the text but I missed it because the science sometimes zoomed way over my head but:

The mosquitoes I assume became carriers by biting amplified carriers and then biting other people? So would the insect vector only be a temporary problem or has Kellis Amberlee mutated (been mutated) to survive in insects now? I know the good mad scientist managed to give it to spiders...

Or have I just missed that insects were always a vector in places like Cuba somewhere in the books?

paradisacorbasi

June 2 2011, 19:13:57 UTC 6 years ago

My guess is pretty much what your guess was. Either they bit amplified and then carried live state virus, or somebody worked out a strain that carries via insect since Dr. Abbey could give it to spiders (and maybe millipedes).

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These are my hypotheses...

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celticdragonfly

June 3 2011, 02:58:30 UTC 6 years ago

So, I finished Deadline tonight.

Reactions are mixed. Mix of OMG Seanan you are awesome. OMG Seanan you are EVIL. OMG how can you possibly end it THERE????

Immediately starting a reread to see if I can absorb it all even better this time.

I had peeked at this thread early - bad me - and seeing all the people talking about the incest squick I expected it to be rather a bigger presence in the story than it was. I don't particularly have a squick on that (possibly from not having any brothers?), didn't bother me at all. Seemed... to fit.

Actually, I wonder if humans might not become much more endogamous in the post-Rising culture. Modern Americans' insistence on exogamy is a bit of an aberration - cousin marriage used to be quite common, f'rinstance. In a world where it was that much more dangerous to go out and meet people... people you grew up around might be much more appealing.

It feels to me like the end of the book was really starting to feel rushed, and I wasn't getting where and how things were going. Okay, it didn't help that I've been watching enough of the thunderstorm-systems-spawning-tornadoes that move west-to-east across the continent, and that's what I thought you were talking about when they started driving in the storm, so I got really confused until I figured out oh, you meant a gulf hurricane storm. Part of why I'm doing the reread.

I liked George-in-Shaun's-head. I think I'd have been one of the people around him NOT bothered by it. I suppose it's because if one of my nearest and dearest suddenly died, I'd sure rather have their voice in my head than nothing left of them but a black box of journals.

How long is it until the next one??

I'm still feeling so confused on who are the bad guys here - the CDC? A secret cabal inside the CDC? Some outside group controlling all/parts of the CDC? And what are they trying to achieve? I'll see if the reread helps.

And oh my, so many lines that made me shout with laughter and debate if they were unspoilery enough to read to Miles, who is still finishing his Feed reread before starting his copy of Deadline.

Thank you.

vixyish

June 3 2011, 16:01:58 UTC 6 years ago

In a world where it was that much more dangerous to go out and meet people... people you grew up around might be much more appealing.

That's *definitely* something interesting to think about. Because while conversion happens fairly quickly, you'd still want to know someone well enough to know whether they were suddenly acting strangely, so you'd have those few seconds to prepare. While you're still in the process of dating/getting to know someone... you don't have those cues.

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paradisacorbasi

June 3 2011, 03:34:32 UTC 6 years ago

Oh, and to help drum up interest, I stuck a poll up on goodreads: what kind of blogger would you be in the Newsflesh'verse?

http://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/49070-newsflesh-b-feed-7094569-feed-newsflesh-1-mira-grant-http-ec

notalwaysweak

June 5 2011, 01:20:28 UTC 6 years ago

Oh, good one. Now I have to go see if I actually have a Goodreads login.

I would absolutely be a Fictional. Except I would also possibly be trying to get my hands on Bindi Irwin to see how she feels about the bloggers named for her dad, assuming that she survives the Australian Rising. For that matter, assuming I survive the Australian Rising. I'm dangerously unskilled with weapons and we have pretty tight gun laws, but there is a gun shop two kilometres from here, and I live a fair distance from the major airports (which I would assume would be the first point of entry for K-A into the country). Oh! Refugees! Oh boy. That could get interesting.

...um, and that would be why I would be a Fictional.

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starletfallen

June 3 2011, 07:03:36 UTC 6 years ago

Okay, to be clear, I have not gotten to actually read Deadline yet. I read the first few pages while the girlfriend finished her re-read of Feed, and then she stole it from me and I'm re-reading Feed while I wait for her to finish and give it back. But she's keeping me abreast of things we're learning about Kellis-Amberlee because we like to go "oh my god, the implications of this are blahblahblah" and ramble in the backs of 24 hour diners at 2 in the morning after I get off work and weird the waitresses out by how we insist on having our backs to the wall, just in case.

HOWEVER.

She was sitting next to me in bed reading just a couple minutes ago, and gasped, a really horrified gasp, and I glance over and happen to see the bottom of the last page of the chapter she's on. Five words.

"She would have gotten better."

SEANAN OH MY GOD YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON WORSE THAN JIM BUTCHER AND I LOVE YOU SO MUCH. Seriously. I'm not even reading the book yet and I had such an intense emotional reaction to that revelation that I had to sit very still and take deep slow breaths for a few minutes because I literally thought I was going to throw up. That... sounds kind of bad, "your writing nearly made me vomit", but it's about the hugest compliment because I have never been emotionally invested in a story and in characters to the extent that I would literally be so emotionally overwhelmed by something that it would make me react so strongly physically and my words suck right now but AUGH SEANAN DAMN YOU DAMN YOU DAMN YOU WHY ARE YOU SO AMAZING?

This series is horrible and painful and heartwrenching and I swear to god every time I read it, I feel like I'm reading about the people I love and the people closest to me, and myself because it's all so... so intense and so real, for all that we don't have to deal with zombies in real life (not for another three years, anyway). And... and... and... AUGH.

I want to write like you. No, that's not true, I want to write like me, but I want to be able to evoke emotions and connections and love and hate and anger and heartache and even the need to throw up from emotional overwhelmingness in people the way you do in me.

I love the Toby books so much, but this is what I love you for the most. I'm going to be an utter mess for the rest of the night, possibly through the weekend, probably for at least a day after I finish the book. There are not words for my emotions right now.

I want people (fictional people, in Newsflesh) to die. PEOPLE NEED TO DIE. BECAUSE GEORGE DIED AND SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO. BECAUSE SHAUN HAD TO KILL HIS ONE PERSON. ...I empathize a great deal with Shaun, obviously. >_>



...anyway, yes, this is a long, rambling, ranty comment because I just thought you should know that you are fantastic and horrible and I sobbed and would've thrown the book across the room if I'd been the one holding it and I love you and... and please don't ever stop doing what you do. Because you do it so well.

kshandra

June 6 2011, 19:01:05 UTC 6 years ago

I'm not even reading the book yet and I had such an intense emotional reaction to that revelation that I had to sit very still and take deep slow breaths for a few minutes because I literally thought I was going to throw up.

It's not just you - I had the same reaction when George died in the first book.

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tsgeisel

June 3 2011, 07:37:49 UTC 6 years ago

Just finished reading it. Damn that's good. I have to admit - I was expecting someone I cared about more to die at the end. If you'd killed Becks, I wouldn't have been totally surprised. Or even Sean, for that matter.

As I've pointed out in comments above, the cloning - more specificially the cloning to current age - is the only bit that I'm currently having trouble with. Up until that point (and excepting it), everything falls into the category of extrapilatorily plausible.

I had a bit of a problem at the end with the whole lack of communication they had on the road back from Memphis, and back in Weed. I was never certain if it was just their equipment that wasn't working, or what. Because by the time they do get connected, it's obvious that *some* people were able to stay connected to the net. So I'm confused.

I'm also wondering if the "new rising" was opportunistic with the storm system, or meant to cover up the death of Dr. Wynn, and bury anything they chose to release under a different news cycle.

I also think that soon we'll be finding out about weaponized K-A versus an immune military force. I mean, what a way to take out an opposing army - drop K-A, turn them to zombies (who don't use weapons) and then send in your troops who can handle a few scratches without worry. Or imagine releasing it into an enemy government building at the moment of a coup - the deaths can be blamed away, and you can move your people in under all the confusion.

I'm not sure if I'm being too paranoid for a Newsflesh world, or not paranoid enough...

But, anyway - great job.

paradisacorbasi

June 3 2011, 14:52:45 UTC 6 years ago

Not. Paranoid. Enough.

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June 3 2011, 15:07:01 UTC 6 years ago

Yes, "she would have gotten better" is when you saw my goodreads post that was censored F-word all over the place.

Icon displays my reaction.

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fayted

June 3 2011, 16:23:50 UTC 6 years ago

FYI - Amazon has a "look inside" for when you're shopping books.
Their look inside for Deadline includes a little less than whats given after the end of Feed, and also the beginning pages of book 3.
Yeah. It has George.
It's spoiling peeps before purchase. If it were me, I'd see if I could get that changed.
Either way, the book was great! Thanks!

seanan_mcguire

June 3 2011, 17:39:31 UTC 6 years ago

...erk.

I don't know if I CAN do anything, but I'll alert my publisher.

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kyrielle

June 3 2011, 16:45:51 UTC 6 years ago

Oh. My. GOD. Oh my ****ing GOD.

There will be content later. I just finished it, I have a dentist appointment in 15 minutes, and OMFG.

seanan_mcguire

June 3 2011, 17:37:49 UTC 6 years ago

Mwahaahahahaha.

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deakat

June 3 2011, 17:18:47 UTC 6 years ago

My yard is full of mosquitoes! Eeeeeeee!

Just to say, you are awesome.

seanan_mcguire

June 3 2011, 17:26:18 UTC 6 years ago

Heh heh heh.

jenrose1

June 3 2011, 19:22:39 UTC 6 years ago Edited:  June 3 2011, 19:22:51 UTC

Four word review:


Wait... what... buh... Mommy?

seanan_mcguire

June 14 2011, 03:13:52 UTC 6 years ago

I approve of this review.

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bakazaru7

June 3 2011, 22:16:23 UTC 6 years ago

The line "She would have gotten better" made me nearly fall off the treadmill.

And apparently my crazy out-crazies Shaun's crazy, because right around his first psychotic break, I texted a friend to say "HOLY SH*T THEY CLONED GEORGIA". Then I got to the end and had to text her again saying "OMG, THEY REALLY *DID* CLONE GEORGIA

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June 8 2011, 18:57:09 UTC 6 years ago

Hee hee hee!

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About the Masons...

signy1

June 3 2011, 23:10:06 UTC 6 years ago

I wondered if Shaun realizes how badly they fucked up the inside of his head, especially where his grief-reactions were concerned. I mean, not to sound callous, but in this nightmare world of theirs, is there *anyone* left who hasn't lost a major chunk of their heart to KA fatalities? I'll grant that someone like Shaun, who only ever *had* one important interpersonal relationship, far as I can tell, has lost more than just the average bereaved lover/sibling/whatever, but still. He just careens from damn-near catatonia to insane rage and back. Sounds like just the sort of unhealthy reaction you'd learn from a set of parents who replaced every emotion with either 'get the story' or 'go numb.' That's almost the worst crime on their parental rap sheet, that kind of emotional rape.

Re: About the Masons...

elorie

June 4 2011, 23:31:58 UTC 6 years ago

Yeah, because PTSD from shooting the person closest to you wouldn't make someone act like that.

Come to think of it, if the Masons do behave that way, that would be why. I refuse to see this as a "crime" on their part. I'm also morally opposed to blaming parents for the way that a grown man behaves. Either he, as an adult, is responsible for his actions, and they, as adults, are responsible, or none of them are because they are all kind of broken, but you can't hold them totally responsible and him not.

Re: About the Masons...

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Re: About the Masons...

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alessandriana

June 3 2011, 23:46:31 UTC 6 years ago

Having just finished Deadline two seconds ago:

OH MYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

holy shit did you just do that

i-- i don't-- what is this i don't even


I THINK I AM A LITTLE BIT IN LOVE WITH YOU JUST FYI

OR MAYBE KIND OF A LOT

oh my god


*goes into paroxysms of flailing*

a slightly more coherent reaction

alessandriana

June 4 2011, 00:39:52 UTC 6 years ago

Re: "She would have gotten better"-- I was sitting in my cubicle at work (I've been stealing brief moments of time to read for the last two days, hiding the book under my desk and hoping nobody walks by), and it took everything I had, EVERYTHING I HAD, not to make a sound. I had to put the book down and go hide in the bathroom and mouth 'holy shit!' to myself a lot before I could calm down. Talk about a punch in the gut.

Re: the incest-- I knewwwwww it! Haha. Actually I had made it part of my headcanon all the way back in Feed, although I never expected you to actually spell it out. Bully for you, going where the narrative needed to go!

Re: the cloning-- I think this is possibly the part I'm shakiest on, science-believability-wise, but I trust you to make it work. And I'm glad to hear she's not just going to be an insta-George replacement; that feels like it would cheapen Georgia's death in Feed.

Re: everything else-- Mahir is f'ing awesome. I felt bad for Kelly, and also for Dave and Maggie and the movies they'll never watch together. Georgia-in-Shaun's-head was brilliant, and I really want to give the poor boy a hug-- but I'm also glad he has her along for the ride. Sex scenes will never not make me laugh. (I'm sorry, it has nothing to do with the quality of your writing, it's just me and the fact that "cock" is an inherently funny word.)

And do we seriously have to wait an entire year for the next book????

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orlacarey

June 4 2011, 01:00:56 UTC 6 years ago Edited:  June 4 2011, 01:18:09 UTC

Payday was today so yay for downloading book. I'm not reading this threadyet but it's hard. At this point I want to stop by a bookstore to see if my download is maybe missing the first chapter...or five? Is it just me, a bum download or if the story starts partway in

vixyish

June 4 2011, 05:46:52 UTC 6 years ago

Where does your copy start?

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