Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
Seanan McGuire
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And then Seanan got angry.

I am, to a degree, a public figure. I know that. I am also a low-level enough public figure that I am accessible, unlike, say, anyone who's actually famous. That means that some of the things I do and say will be judged in ways that will seem unfair to me. I know that, too. I've basically come to grips with the fact that if I want to be an author, and if I want to make my living doing this, I'm going to have to deal with people judging me. That being said...

Don't you ever, ever insult my cats. Don't you ever, ever imply that I own them because they're "status symbols," or because I am in some way taking pleasure in the knowledge that other cats are being put to sleep right now. Lilly, Alice, and Thomas are my companions. They are my friends. They are the closest I intend to come to having children, and while I may be up for judgment, they are off limits. Leave my cats the fuck alone.

Why do I get my cats from reputable breeders, rather than from the local shelter? A whole bunch of reasons.

I do it for the health of the cat. When I visit a reputable breeder, I can not only meet the kitten I'm hoping to take home with me, I can meet their parents and grandparents. In the case of Alice and Thomas, I met their great-grandfather. I want to know that my cats have a good genetic shot at a long, happy life.

I do it for the temperament of the cat. I have had incredibly sweet, loving shelter cats in my life. I have also had bitter, terrified, xenophobic shelter cats who couldn't be integrated into a household, because they were too damn scared. I want a kitten that has been socialized and loved, and that has been bred to have a good personality to go with those good genes. I want a Lilly, an Alice, a Thomas, a Ripley, a Toby, an Alligator.

And yes, I do insist on kittens whenever possible. At best, I'm bringing home a new cat to an adult who isn't sure about the situation; at worst, I'm bringing home a new cat to two adults who already think there's no room at the inn. I am loud. I move quickly. I go away for long periods of time. I do things the way I do things, and a lot of adult cats can't adjust to me, no matter how hard we both try.

There are cats in shelters. There are cats in rescues. There are cats in need of homes. But I am not in the market for an adult rescue, and the kittens don't need me to be the one that saves them; kittens stand a much better chance than adults. Why do I know this? I know because I have volunteered at shelters and rescues and free clinics since I was twelve years old. Just like I know that I want as complete of a genetic profile as possible on my cats, because I buried so damn many of them when I was bringing them home from the pound.

My cats are not a zero-sum game. Bringing Thomas home from Betsy's didn't kill a kitten somewhere in the world that was waiting for my love; if it hadn't been Thomas, it would have been no new cat at all. Do I wish that there were no cats anywhere in the world waiting for their forever homes? Yes, I do. But that doesn't mean we shut down the breeders, abolish the breeds, and become a Domestic Shorthair and Domestic Longhair-only world. It means we breed responsibly. It means we support the shelters. It means we spay and neuter our pets.

And it means that my cats are not fucking status symbols. They are not somehow less worthy of love and comfort and a place to sleep than cats who have been abused or abandoned. They are exactly as worthy of all those things. And they are getting them from me, as will all the cats in my future.

If you can't be nice to my cats, you leave them the fuck alone.
Tags: alice, cats, cranky blonde is cranky, don't be dumb, lilly, thomas
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Wow... Just...wow. I can't believe someone would say something like that to you. That is beyond bullshit and into absurd and some-people's-children territory.
Agreed on all counts. I'm speechless that someone would even imply that.
SERIOUSLY??

WTF, people!

I hope you know the majority of us understand that your cats are your babies, just like our cats are our babies, and we know you adore them, and at least in my own case, it would never occur to me to think they were anything but sweethearts you fell in love with and knew you needed in your life.
Thank you.
Wait, someone seriously said that? I am flabbergasted.

My cats are shelter cats, always have been. That does NOT give me the right to pass any kind of judgement on those whose lovely feline companions came from breeders. (Unless, of course, they treat the cats solely as status symbols and do not give them the worship love they deserve. Or are in some other way irresponsible pet owners. That scenario requires at the very least a stern talking-to.)

It's analagous to an adoptive parent passing judgement on someone whose children are all biologically their own. Ridiculous!
It's analagous to an adoptive parent passing judgement on someone whose children are all biologically their own. Ridiculous!

This. Insanity.

princesselwen

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

mel_redcap

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

What the fuck? It is very sad that you had to write that :/
People make me tired.

anghara

6 years ago

linenoise

6 years ago

That's like saying for those who want to have children, 'How dare you breed when you can adopt all these kids out there'. Sorry people are being putzes about the furry trio.
You do know there are people who do say that, right? Or if you do adopt, there are people who'll complain about *where* you adopt your children from. (Disclaimer: I am not a parent so I haven't had these aimed at me. But there are a lot of assholes in the world.)

lovefromgirl

6 years ago

vulpine137

6 years ago

vulpine137

6 years ago

snowcoma

6 years ago

vulpine137

6 years ago

snowcoma

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

vulpine137

6 years ago

trialia

6 years ago

Not to mention that even the best shelters have a risk of respiratory infection issues -- one of our cats may have it. (Or he may have allergies. It's a bit telling that none of the others seem to have caught it from him, despite being in the same house for years. But it was a risk.) Genetic health, health of not being exposed to J. Random Kitty Germs, emotional health...

Two of our cats are shelter cats. Two would've been shelter cats if they hadn't had us. And we had to give two to the shelter (along with a hefty donation), because six indoor cats, even in a pretty big house, would've been a bit much. And this is me totally not begrudging anyone the right to buy the beloved, cared-for cat that they want. (This is also me wondering what dimension someone came in from to think that you would own a living thing as nothing but a status symbol! I mean, krishna murphy, anyone who hears you talk about them should realize that you adore them!)

Spay and neuter, breed responsibly, and support shelters. Amen.
Exactly.

archangelsmom

6 years ago

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Maine Coons are the Syfy Saturday night special of the cat world. My pair are currently attempting to occupy the ENTIRE bedroom floor, and doing a reputable job.

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::shakes head:: I would've thought that would all go without saying. I'm sorry it doesn't. Some people are unbelievable.
Thank you.
Oh how I hear you.
As we got Kater and Moony, we both insisted on kittens, too. We share some things - I'm loud, too, I am a filker, I play the piano, I invite people for housefilks and Husband loves to listen to Pink Floyd in a volume that blows my ears off sometimes.
So, yeah, we, like you, need cats that are able to adjust to us and Mum in Law, who is our preferred cat sitter.
I am roaming a cat owner's internet forum sometimes, and I always get crazy when people who don't get cats from the local shelters but from a breeder are torn to shreds because they don't "help to end all that cat misery in the world". I am probably worse than a person who gets cats from a breeder. Moony is from a hobby breeder. She is a mix of two breeds, and her existence alone is an insult to all the pet rescuers in that forum. But yes, she's our cat, she's family member, she's more than a mere pet. Like Kater. I always call him my cat "soul mate", and Moon my "little sister".
And whenever someone speaks up against my cats, I join you in being angry.
Your cats are beautiful. You love them, and they will not wind up in boxes on someone's doorstep. I think they help to "end all that cat misery" by existing, because they show people how amazing cats can be, and that encourages more people to adopt cats.

aryana_filker

6 years ago

I don't understand why people are up in your business about your cats. I mean, I like that you engage with me sometimes, when you have the time. I like seeing pics of the kitties, they are beautimous. I feel a kinship with you for two reasons; 1-that I think we would both be most happy living in Halloween Town. (Burton's or Disney's) 2-You look a LOT like Misha, my ex wife and best friend, who got me 'feed' and Wicked Girls.

But...in reality, we have never met. My having an opinion on where you got your cats is about as sane as your having an opinion that I like dark haired men. Or that I have six cats.

Misha buys me your books and music to entertain me. They entertain me a lot. Being bedridden, it is a blessing to be distracted. YOU HAVE SUPPLIED WHAT SHE PAID FOR. I mean, I might not like the politics of a certain actor. (not naming names, could be anyone) but if I like the movies he's in...he did what I paid him to do.

You choose to share an extra large slice of yourself with people who like your work. It's fun for us, it's hopefully a little fun for you, but there are still things that nobody should be sticking their noses in.

As far as I can tell, there is only ONE thing you are absolutely wrong about. Emma Frost needs to get damn self away from Scott Summers. LOL
I applaud both your six cats and your Hocus Pocus icon.
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These people don't know you. And I am really sorry there are people who can mean just because they can. Mean and stupid should HURT.

And that is all.
Agreed.

archangelsmom

6 years ago

brownkitty

6 years ago

archangelsmom

6 years ago

natf

6 years ago

Fuck the haters. *hug*

snowcoma

May 12 2011, 20:32:44 UTC 6 years ago Edited:  May 12 2011, 21:45:39 UTC

Funny thing, you've never judged me for owning strays. When I was curious about your kitties a while back, you explained to me why you bought from a breeder in a polite manner that made perfect sense. It made me want to adopt a well-bred cat alongside my rescues when money and space allows.

My cats may live to be 20. They may die of something genetic tomorrow. That is scary as fuck, and I don't think there is something wrong with wanting to avoid that extra worry. I've lost babies to genetic issues before, and it tore me up.

And if cats were status-symbols, I'd be the fucking Angelina Jolie of the feline world if ever I was willing to mention the sheer number I've rescued and found homes for in my twenty-two years. Cats are family, not collectors items. Jeebus, people.

EDIT: And for what it's worth, when I fulfill my life-long dream of having a Rottie, I'm doing the same as you. Hip Displaysia is nothing to fuck around with.
Damn straight. You get a Rottie, you get it from a good breeder who shows you the puppy X-rays.
Very well said (as always) and agreed on all counts. I hope we can find a way for you to meet our two furry babies (and the non-furry baby) next time you're in town.
Me, too!

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Thank you.
I am so sorry. Wish I could give you big hugs. You could stop in Oakland on your way home. I'd hug you;)

I can't fathom ever, ever saying something like this-to anyone and certainly not to someone I barely know no matter how much the intarwebz make us feel like we know you.
It's amazing what some people think is okay.
Some people need to mind their own business about other people's pets. My family has never had cats, but we have had four dogs and just about every other pet there is. Three of our dogs were adopted, but the first was from a litter of puppies that belonged to someone my dad worked with. But I certainly would not judge anyone who purchased animals from a breeder. If they did their research and took care of their animals, and they aren't doing it just because PUREBREDS MAKE ME LOOK IMPORTANT, then I see nothing wrong with it.
And I love the pictures of your cats. :)
Thank you.
what the hell is wrong with people!??
Yay for icon-twins ;)

mariadkins

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

People are that tacky?

People are honestly fussing over where you get your cats?

I've had rescues and strays all my life. Making a household like mine work is absolutely not easy, and with all of the stresses you tell us about (disregarding for a minute the ones you probably spare us), I think you're being smart, admitting you might be best suited to bred cats. I have had to teach two of mine how to cope with humans, one that was aggressive (lashes out when she's feels out of control--been there, felt that) and one that's incredibly shy, but will now tolerate affection provided she is either on my bed or able to run whenever she pleases. The third... would likely be in a shelter by now, what with his spraying habit.

I loved them from the minute I met them, but love isn't enough. You have to be willing to work hard, like you've just taken in a child whose background is completely unknown, but it's a child with twenty tiny knives at its disposal at all times. Some people do, in fact, take in children whose circumstances aren't much different from shelter cats, and it is, yes, very hard for them, too. Humans who can breed their own tend to do that, or get "kittens" fresh from their mothers. We don't shame them for doing that, do we?

So why the hell does anyone feel like shaming you?

Much disappointment in whoever did.

Sending love. Also, really, really excited over these snippets of pandemic fun you've been posting. ♥
Pedantically, most cats have only eighteen tiny knives on their paws. (I count the teeth as stilettos, not knives; I had a cat who would bite an arm if you put it in front of his nose, but was otherwise fairly patient and un-aggressive towards humans. Yes, I tested this theory with my other arm. The wounds were not quite as deep. >_> ) Only polydactyls have a chance of making 20.

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

My girls are rescues but I agree with your sentiments. Bad bad people, the important thing is you love them and they love you and you enrich each others lives.
Exactly.
In my opinion, the only people who have status symbol pets are the ones who don't love their pets, but keep them in order to bask in the admiration of others.

I'm not really sure the term "pets" even covers that, really. Not sure what to call that... "collecting"?

Anyway, it's quite plain you love your cats. And I see nothing wrong with you buying from a breeder.

And you know, some people are just wrong. It happens.
The same sort who do the same with their children who are supposed to be 'advertisements' for the parents. I'd bet that it is that sort of parent who is seeing other people as doing the same with their pets (and children). Yes, I'd say 'collecting'.

(I only just saw this post, didn't see it before I went to bed. Probably a good thing, I'd have been too mad to sleep...)

ashabardon

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

reedrover

May 12 2011, 21:13:16 UTC 6 years ago Edited:  May 12 2011, 21:14:51 UTC

Thank you for the post. I appreciate that you took the time in your own journal to talk to your LJ-readers about something important to you. My personal opinion of the subject is irrelevant to my appreciation of your effort to communicate clearly and completely. I also appreciate the quality and calibre of responses you are garnering. The whole thread makes for interesting reading from a number of different angles, especially when people are drawing parallels to human's acquisition of human children.

Also, I am garnering much food for thought when we next have a chance to choose a pet (rather than have one choose us). Lifestyle integration is becomming much more important.
Thank you.
I suggest you take that person, change him/her enough so you can't be sued, and put him/her in one of your stories. Perhaps as Patient Zero for some particularly awful disease. Maybe he/she even gets it by being obnoxious to a stray cat (instead of adopting it) and the cat scratches him.

On the home front, just last week we had a new addition to the household. A friend's allergies to her cats had grown beyond her ability to medicate/cope. Going to the home of someone he knows and gets along with is making the transition relatively easy. I've taken in the one she was most allergic to, and would not be surprised to be asked to take in the other one at some time in the future. But maybe with only one cat (that being the one she is less allergic to) she will be able to manage her allergies for a while longer before having to give up cats entirely.




That would be good. And yay, new addition for you!
You are a good cat mommy. Anybody who says otherwise is a stupidhead!
Agreed. :)
I'm so sorry someone gave you shit about your cats and the way you've acquired them. To me it sounds like you ran into someone who's a rabid ... not sure what the term is, but like a rabid vegetarian that treats everyone that eats meat as if they were going out and abusing and slaughtering a cow personally.

There is a big difference between a puppy/kitten mill and a reputable breeder and it's a shame that reputable breeders get grief because other people in the world abuse and abandon animals.

Hang in there and know that whoever gave you that shit is in the minority.
Thank you.
*pet pet pet*
*sulk*
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