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The lines of interaction.

Common wisdom among authorial circles says "do not respond to reviews." I consider this a mantra, and practically have it cross-stitched on my living room wall. Good review? Happiness. Bad review? Sadness. Review which bears no resemblance whatsoever to the book I wrote, leading me to wonder where the reviewer gets their books, since if they have a dimensional portal, I want to borrow it? Bewilderment. But nowhere in there do you find a class of review that comes with "engage reviewer and either look smug or bitch about how they don't understand your genius."

I will respond to reviewers, if we have a relationship, however casual it may be. The majority of the reviews I link to are found by my helpful Google spiders, which skitter around the Internet bringing me things without concern for my feelings. I tell them they're good and feed them lots of flies. Some reviews, however, come to me because the reviewer emails me directly to say "I reviewed your book." In those cases, I feel entirely justified in replying, privately, with "Wow, I'm glad you liked it," or "I'm sorry this wasn't your cup of tea, hopefully the next book will suit you better." Because we're in a private setting, interacting like people, as long as I'm polite, I'm okay.

The lines start to get a little blurry when newer forms of social media come into play. Like Twitter. If someone @'s me, they know I'm going to see their Tweet the next time I check my @replies. That's the culture of the system, which is built on the expectation of/hope for interaction. I don't answer every @reply, but I make an effort to read them all, and answer the majority. So am I responding to a review, or am I sticking to the dominant culture of the platform? What about on Facebook, where people tag to your profile? They know that doing so will send you a notification. Is that an invitation to interact, or is it a sad reality of the system?

Miss Manners never had to deal with being a polite, professional working author in the Internet Age. I think that's why she doesn't have any pointers for certain kinds of behavior, and why she never considers "get a baseball bat" to be the appropriate beginning to a polite response.

So where are the lines for you? What do you think is the boundary for "polite" authorial behavior—and from the other side, what's the boundary for behaving politely toward authors? Inquiring minds want to know.
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While I have no specific advice, I thought you handled it very professionally when LJ-friends reviewed Feed in the discussion post. You never got "grr" with negative responses, and gave happy-but-not-gushing responses to all who enjoyed it. It blended well.
The only time I've ever gotten "grr" with negative responses is back when I did a lot of fic-a-thons, and people would request very specific pieces from me, because community etiquette says "if they wrote it JUST FOR YOU, you say thank you and suck it up, even if you hate it." Otherwise, you get to like what you like, and I'm just glad you're reading.

snowcoma

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

Twitter is tricky. If I link one of my reviews on there, I might put the author's twitter name, but I would do that if I wanted my followers to go check out the author's Twitter, rather than particularly wanting (or expecting) the author to read it. So unless I specifically "@" a "celeb" (I'm counting authors in that term) and say, "Hey, I just reviewed your book, blah de blah," I don't intend for the author to read it. Not that the author CAN'T, clearly.

re: boundaries for behaving politely toward authors, I think no one should act on the Internet differently than they would in real life. I am a loud, opinionated person, and if I don't like a book, I'll say so, both IRL and online. That being said, if I know I'm having a REALLY negative-emotion reaction to a book, I try to wait a little before reviewing it so that I can be as objective as possible. I also would not personally attack an author in a review, no matter how much I hated the book. I write reviews for the readers, so I try and point out what exactly I disliked (and liked; usually there's a bit of both.).

(PS my book-blog is a blogspot, not an LJ, if anyone wanders over there looking for reviews ;))
Twitter is definitely tricky. I find it mostly frustrating because I do make such an effort not to cross the politeness lines, and I wind up vapor-locking between "do not respond to reviewers, you'll come off as crazy" and "do not ignore @replies, you'll come off as a snotty bitch." Fun for the whole family!

To be clear, I absolutely do not think you should censor your book reviews in any way just because the author might see it. That's always been a possibility, even if it's easier now. I appreciate that you can take a cooling down period; Great Pumpkin knows, I can't always manage that.

archangelbeth

6 years ago

I believe that authors have a right to defend themselves if there is an egregrious error or personal slander in a review. Defending other authors is touchy, but people have a right to stand up for their friends if the above happens. I think that making a blog post or other public statement about the above is taking it too far except in the most extreme cases. (Internet pile-ons can be brutal, and I've seen them happen on tumblr for the use of one word in ignorance.)

I think it is very thoughtful when authors comment positively on reviews--it's brightened my reviewing heart, certainly.
I think it's thoughtful, and it's part of why I try to link to reviews here when I find them, but it's a slippery slope. Especially since, well. I write a five-book series. You review the first one and like it; I comment, and we're happy. Same with books two through four. And then you loathe the fifth book. Like, "this book came to my house and touched my stuff" levels of loathing. If I comment, I'm running the risk of setting off an Internet dogpile, and if I don't, I'm sulking.

I actually don't tend to defend from slander anymore, after getting horribly trolled the one time I did (long story, long time ago, not my problem anymore, thank the stars).
The boundaries are where you set them. We ought to respect that. I have reviews of your books up on the Chapters website, but since that's akin to Amazon and you've mentioned that you don't want to know about that I haven't mentioned it. Chapters is significantly smaller, but then, so is Canada's population.

Boundaries can be odd, we, the readers that is, have to remember that while we feel that we know you through your writing and blog. And that we may have talked one or twice. And in my case, you have auctioned me off (G) we don't have a relationship. You don't have the energy to have THAT many close personal friends. It simply isn't reasonable. So I might think "I wonder if ...." I could THINK it. But I couldn't actually ask it. Although what is the worst you could say if I asked you privately? I'm not to sure how to reach you that way? I'm not going to ask in a public forum. That would be rude. And would be crossing over way to many boundaries. Sorry my brain wanders sometimes. Seriously I would like to ask you something in private, and I'm not sure the best way to do that.
The contact link on my website is the best way to reach me.
When I @ you on Twitter I'm tickled pink when you respond but I don't expect it and I certainly don't get bent out of shape if you don't. You're too busy for your own good and I grok that. Of course, a lot of times when I do that I'm tipping my followers to your music and books and a response on your part isn't at all required.

I do have a quirk, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Money is scarce so I'm very picky where I spend it. I'm far more likely to buy the books, music, and other products of someone that is "friendly" on the internet. Someone who responds politely to fans at least occasionally and behaves with integrity. I honestly bought Rosemary & Rue on Kindle the first time because I'd been following your blog and I liked you. Then of course I was hooked. A good many of the authors I read regularly I "met" first on the internet.
Oh, same here. I will line up to buy books by people I've "met" who didn't act like total tools.

kyburg

6 years ago

sparrowpunk

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

wyldlingspirit

6 years ago

sparrowpunk

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

I can recall two occasions when I've gotten authors' responses to my online reviews. I was flattered that they'd noticed. One called mine a "rave" review (I liked this book but didn't think I was quite gushing), so we were both happy. Another disagreed with some points on my review but was respectful. He did use the annoying "Well, why don't you write something yourself?" line, but I told him politely that I had written some stories and even had a couple published, and acknowledged the difficulty.

Just BTW, my review of Feed is here. Respond however you like, or not.
Thanks for the link!
I don't see how anyone could expect personal responses from someone with thousands of 'followers' (or billions in the case of certain deities), so I don't see that you could reasonably be considered rude because you didn't respond to a few prayers tweets. A hand-written and decorated letter, on the other hand *g*...
Tttthhhhhhhppppppppt.

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The culture of Twitter is such that you're expected to respond to @replies. Not every single one, but at least some.

idancewithlife

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

Great post :)

I've been lucky so far. I haven't had any bad (as in 'unkind')reviews yet. I've seen a few downright spiteful 'reviews' for other people's books on Amazon. I like to think I could resist responding if I got one like those, but it would be awfully tempting.

It's perfectly understandable for a reader who didn't enjoy a book to say so, but mean personal attacks are out of order, no matter what the venue - at least, that's my take on it.

That's why I don't read Amazon reviews. They're a lot more likely to get cruelly personal, rather than critiquing the work fairly.

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I think it's usually a lack of time. I know that when I wind up just going "thank you" over and over again, it's usually either because a) I'm answering a "happy birthday," or b) no more brain.

There's an Authors Behaving Badly boom every year or so. Educational and scary.

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I don't try to answer Every Single One. It's mostly that I view them as an invitation to interact, and sometimes, it's hard to say whether or not that's appropriate.
No clue how twitter should work, but I do wish it was ok to respond to Critical reviews (as opposed to negative ones). They reviewed 'Feed' at Strange Horizons and while the reviewer liked the book a lot, he seemed to be describing a very different set of characters (in short: the whole thing works best when interpreteted as a scathing satire of modern journalism and Georgia is actually a horrible journalist...but the book is great!). It kept making me go "whut?!?"

OTOH, I just got 'Late Eclipses' delivered at work and am trying to figure out how to read it immediately without getting fired. :-P
Yeah, I read that review, and came away very perplexed. I'd love to take the reviewer out for a beer and better understand his perspective. At the same time, there's really no response I could make that wouldn't run the risk of Authors Gone Wild, so I'm just as glad not to have the option.

herewiss13

6 years ago

aiglet

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

I think the @replies are a whole new kettle of fish. Personally, if it's an @reply notifying me of a review, I read the review and perhaps say "Thanks for reviewing!" If it's an actual message, written to me rather than as a general notification, I'll engage in that sort of dialogue you do with email. But I"m always careful about it, as Twitter is public...
Exactly.

firynze

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

firynze

6 years ago

I'm not an author or a reviewer, but I do share twitter and facebook and a bunch of email lists with a lot of people who are my paying customers (the joy of working as a vendor to a fairly small industry).

In many ways it's the same thing. I always respond professionally, and in my "work" persona on my "work" accounts. My "personal" accounts are a lot wilder, but I always remember that some of the people following them are my customers. Laura is much the same. We both have intentionally chosen "our personality is our brand" as a marketing approach, and I think that's an approach that's a natural for many authors.

Part of that is remembering that you're always "on" any time you're in any forum you share with potential customers (meaning any public forum, and some private fora). And that while it's a really good thing for customers and partners, both current and potential, to see you as a real person and see your real life, it's also good for that life to be slightly edited for that audience. You're spinning an ongoing tale as to who you are, that's close to, but not identical to who you are. (I have a few private fora, and a few public personas not connected to me, where I don't need to do that, though, and I think that's a healthy thing).

I do think it's important to respond to any direct inquiry that seems to be expecting an answer, as much as you can. Email to you, twitter @ing, comments you notice in public fora that ask for a response from you... But the driving factor should be "what's the end result of this interaction going to be?". If the end result is one reader happy, that's a win and you should do it. If the end result is a long frustrating interaction that eats up a bunch of your time, or an appearance of being intrusive that makes a forum upset or likely to self-censor, you shouldn't do it. Sometimes that answer can be semantically empty but still a response - which lets you avoid the snotty bitch / come off as crazy dilemma.

I'm on several mailing lists where every other participant is either an existing customer or a potential customer. I'm very careful there to _not_ mention our product or services, unless someone else (an existing customer, usually) specifically, publicly asks me to. That's one of the rules I've created for myself for that sort of forum as an easy to follow implication of "what's the end result of this interaction going to be?".

I think your existing rules, including "don't respond to reviews" are excellent, and I think they follow perfectly from "what's the end result of this interaction going to be?" in protecting your sanity, the free exchange of views in comment threads and encouraging people to talk freely about your books. You can probably create rules for other fora, such as twitter and facebook, that are just as good based on the same reasoning. Facebook tagging and liking, for instance, aren't something that's really asking for a response, so it's not something you should feel a need to respond to (unless there's something in the particular instance that makes you feel you want to respond).

But don't stress it. Your online persona is doing just fine. When I think about people who are handling social media to talk to their base well I think of Gaiman, Scalzi, Wheaton and McGuire. At some point really soon, though, you're going to hit the point where you simply don't have the time to respond to everything, and you're going to have to prioritize and decide what sort of interaction with "your public" gives you the most bang for the minute.
Thank you, very much. :)

kyburg

6 years ago

I definitely don't expect a response on twitter. Like sfpanda, I think I linked to your username to alert other people. I was in the middle of a readathon and thought people might be curious which books I was devouring/reading. And it was just a general "Hey, another new reader!" message to you. If you feel the urge to respond, great, but please don't feel obligated. Interaction is nice and makes my day and all, but I know how busy writers are. I am quite happy just to see updates in your twitter of upcoming books/stories. Or turning Barbies into action heroines. Whichever works.

(If I have Aqua stuck in my head all day, I will come find someone!)
off topic, but I love that pendant in your icon!

juliael

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

I try not to squick people out or get over-enthusiastic about something. Sometimes my mental filters have a hole, but I patch those quickly.
And it's appreciated.
As someone who reviews books from time to time, the whole question of whether or not to point it out to the author is one I've wondered about more than a few times. So I was hoping you'd address one or two questions above that you didn't answer directly.

Namely, (1) do you want to be informed when someone reviews one of your books and (2) does it make a difference if that review is positive or negative?

I infer from the fact that you've employed helpful spiders that the answers to the above are "Yes" and "No", respectively, but I've learned that making assumptions doesn't always pay.
If we have spoken in the past (ie, you're not just some totally random person going BY THE WAY HATED YOUR BOOK THOUGHT YOU SHOULD KNOW), I'd like to know, even if the review is negative. But when you point it out to me directly, I do feel like I'm allowed to reply in private, so starting by signaling the existence of a bad review is probably unwise. :)
Personally, I think that you shouldn't respond to anything. I like the idea of there being a distance between writer and reader. It's cool that writers and creative types respond to things, but I don't see as necessary, or even desirable.

This comes from years of professionally absorbing the worst reviews and not responding. Granted, reviews of art exhibitions are not reviews of books, and curators are not authors. But I just like that wall to be maintained, and like the idea that unless an outright lie is spoken, we are adult enough to take bad reviews.

But I admit that I am really not part of "new media" and social networking beyond LJ. I live in some very odd past. But if I'm going to be a dinosaur, at least I know you'll invite me to the best dino dance parties.
I don't reply to reviews.
I don't reply to random blog entries.
I do reply to blog comments.
I do reply to @replies, because Twitter culture DOES NOT have an allowance for "silent public figure" that isn't also "giant jerk."

I throw good dino dance parties. :)
You know, as long as people identify themselves in public places - I sure can forgive a lot without saying anything publicly.

Say nasty things, and don't even give a method to respond in a less public venue? That's not even fair. I fear I don't have a lot of patience with that kind of thing, for that reason.

I was a kid around a lot of authors - and was very spoiled and spanked at the same time. I think the way you handle these issues shows a great deal of mental poise and compassion. It's what you would like in return and that is fair.
In my writing group, we have an unwritten rule that we're not allowed to respond to the group's critiques. We can request that the criticism is tipped in a certain direction, or speak up to ask for suggestions on fixing the holes, but we're not allowed to answer, "So why did your character suddenly do a total personality shift in this chapter?" or "Why did your character ditch all his worldly goods to backpack Europe?" If the text doesn't support it, readers are going to ask the same thing, generally, and we need to answer the questions in the text.

It's also to prepare us for the possibility of publication. There will be reviews that ask these questions, and, as much as we want to, we recognize it's a bad idea. Because you can quickly go from, "Those questions will be answered in book 2" to "Why do you all hate me? Whyyyyyyy?"

Most of us are one step removed from that Goodreads fiasco, where an "author" (she was published by a vanity press) went off on someone who'd reviewed her, and rated her one star.

I say most of us, because one member of the group is the object of the writer's ire. I'm being deliberately vague because I don't think you'd appreciate having your name linked to that . . . situation. But if you need details, I'll gladly e-mail you.

I will never be able to think of getting feedback from an author on my review without cringing. Granted, most authors are more mature than to personally attack someone over an unflattering review, but I'm still wary.
That is a GOOD rule.

And I remember that fiasco. I sat back and shuddered. I promise never to give feedback on a review unless you ASK ME FOR IT, in a private forum.

alicetheowl

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

alicetheowl

6 years ago

Miss Manners never had to deal with being a polite, professional working author in the Internet Age

Miss Manners is, I am happy to say, doing her inimitable thing right at the moment!
AWESOME.
I have nothing to add but I have to say that as a casual (all right, make that occasionally obsessive) reader and someone who is "in charge" of my day-job-employer's social media presence, I find these kinds of posts fascinating.
Awesome. :)
I personally would feel . . . icky . . . bringing a review directly to the writer's attention. It feels kinda like saying, "Look at me! Look at me! Validate my existence!" Which makes me uncomfortable.
I kind of understand it with bloggers who have specifically requested a review copy. If you asked me for a book for purposes of reviewing, I would expect a review, or an email telling me why the review wasn't going to happen. Even negative reviews are usually pointed out in that sort of situation.

phantom_wolfboy

6 years ago

seanan_mcguire

6 years ago

I personally appreciated that you took the time to point out a couple of my reviews of your work and linked to them.
Good. :)
Is it impolite to not reply to any of them?
Is it professional suicide?

I think, if it wouldn't destroy my writing career success, that's the option I'd choose.
I'd be unaware of any reviews unless I read them on LJ.
Replying to reviews at all is generally considered rude, unless invited. Ignoring all Twitter @replies is generally considered tacky, and sort of snobby. Hence my occasional dilemma.

shoebrera

6 years ago

shoebrera

6 years ago

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