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: Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
2011-03-03 09:09:00

Seanan McGuire
seanan_mcguire
2011-03-03 09:09:00

Mood: tired
Music: Adele, "Rolling in the Deep."

LATE ECLIPSES open thread. Have a party.

To celebrate the release of Late Eclipses [Amazon]|[Mysterious Galaxy], here. Have an open thread to discuss the book.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned.

You can also start a book discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence.

Have fun!

Tags: late eclipses, toby daye

jane_dark

March 4 2011, 17:26:01 UTC 6 years ago

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I don't think I've seen any speculation in these threads yet about the "he" who Oleander refers to in her encounter with Amandine just after she and Toby return to the Summerlands during Toby's childhood. I'm thinking that's not Oberon, so am I correct in thinking that Amandine was involved with someone else, who we may or may not have already met?

amandolin1

March 4 2011, 17:31:04 UTC 6 years ago

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I assumed she was talking about Simon. Amandine did make some sort of reference to Oleander becoming a messenger for the Daoine Sidhe.

jane_dark

March 4 2011, 17:40:02 UTC 6 years ago

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Oh, I thought about that, but why would Simon have such a proprietary interest in Amandine? Oleander says that "He sent me. Someone thought he should know that you've come home again, and now he's wondering after your welfare."

To me, that reads as former/spurned lover, and as far as I know, Simon and Amandine weren't involved in that way (at least, not to Toby's knowledge).

amandolin1

March 4 2011, 17:49:33 UTC 6 years ago

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I don't know what her relationship with Simon was, I'm assuming there was one since Amandine is around the same age as Sylvester. They at least knew each other.

I don't know, I just have this feeling that Simon has bigger plans than anything we've seen. Why shouldn't the daughter of a first born figure into those plans?

jane_dark

March 4 2011, 18:02:32 UTC 6 years ago

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Oh, very true, and I don't mean to sound as though I'm dismissing the fact that it could be Simon. I'm just intrigued about the possibility of finding out more, or rather, of Toby finding out more.

amandolin1

March 4 2011, 18:10:02 UTC 6 years ago

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I want to know more now too, my brain just likes to fill in the blanks with what I've been told. Nine times out of ten I'm wrong, but I fidget around the unknown.

rymenhild

March 4 2011, 19:48:20 UTC 6 years ago

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When Oleander's dying she says something about Amandine having stolen him from her. I think "he" there is also Simon, and that, yes, Amandine and Simon were involved for a time.

I wonder if Amandine had any other children, and if so, whether and how those children died...

alicetheowl

March 5 2011, 04:16:30 UTC 6 years ago

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Didn't the Luidaeg already confirm that Toby has brothers and sisters? So they're not necessarily dead.

Who 'he' is...

Erin Valentine

March 7 2011, 02:44:00 UTC 6 years ago

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Why would it not necessarily be Oberon? Page 86, there's a line where Toby references the missing queens and king, and she says, "Someone's eventually going to have to go and find them." I read that and had a big 'ooooohhhhh" moment. Who better to find missing monarchs than a sometimes reluctant hero? Doesn't mean it is Oberon, but I'm not going to count him out as the anonymous 'he' who shall not be named.

Oh, and I am totally Team Tybalt, but I'm afraid to say it too often. Ms. McGuire doesn't seem afraid to remove favorite characters, and right now I open each book with eyes all scrunched up, chanting my McGuire Mantra, "Please don't let Sylvester, Amandine, Luna, Tybalt, Quentin, May or Toby die in this one. Please don't let Sylvester, Amandandine, Luna..." And since she's so dang good at creating unique, richly textured characters, that mantra is going get SOOOOOO long before it's over. (But I have a few that I can't wait to see their comeuppance!)

All of these books, btw, are outstanding. Best series that I've read in a good, long while.