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LATE ECLIPSES open thread. Have a party.

To celebrate the release of Late Eclipses [Amazon]|[Mysterious Galaxy], here. Have an open thread to discuss the book.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned.

You can also start a book discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence.

Have fun!
Tags: late eclipses, toby daye
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Fishy tells me that iron in modern usage is more of an alloy, closer to a steel.

I think the phrase "cold iron" refers more to wrought or cast iron (and only wrought iron, if it's before about 1500 in Europe).

Wrought iron doesn't even exist anymore except in scrap, he says. Cast iron is still manufactured, but is WAY too brittle to be used in car parts. Mostly used for old school frying pans and decorative castings.

The composition of wrought iron is pretty different from modern iron, he is telling me. (I will paste more detail if you're interested, but I don't know if everyone else wants to geek out at quite this level.) :)
I'm also curious *why* iron things hurt the fae so much.
Historically, it's always been that way, and it probably hasn't been especially researched as to *why* - although we've clearly seen that others have researched how to use it to their advantage (elf-shot, the doors to the prison cell, the cell itself). (Both in the series context, and in the fairy tale context in general.)

From a purely scientific aspect, you can theorize that the magnetic properties of iron are disruptive to the powers of the fae. Perhaps the fae have a component that reacts to magnetic fields (the way birds and other migratory animals are theorized to have), and so iron is disruptive in that regard. It kinda makes me wonder how a fae would react to a large dynamo or other EM-generator.

But, again, short of having actual fae to experiment *with* (not on), there's no way to be certain.
That's pretty much the theory that Pratchett uses in explaining how iron affects his elves.
Which may well be where I got it from.

Steal well.
I have a theory about wrought iron being a symbol of humanity taming nature (without wrought iron, axes and shovels are kind of a bust), while the fae, being more naturey, find that in opposition to their philosophical being on a physical level. Sort of. Like vampires and religious symbols, almost.
There are other things fey aren't "allergic" to, though, that are as much a symbol of humanity taming nature, to my mind.