Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
Seanan McGuire
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LATE ECLIPSES open thread. Have a party.

To celebrate the release of Late Eclipses [Amazon]|[Mysterious Galaxy], here. Have an open thread to discuss the book.

THERE WILL BE SPOILERS.

Seriously. If anyone comments here at all, THERE WILL BE SPOILERS. So please don't read and then yell at me because you encountered spoilers. You were warned.

You can also start a book discussion at my website forums, with less need to be concerned that I will see everything you say! In case you wanted, you know, discussion free of authorial influence.

Have fun!
Tags: late eclipses, toby daye
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amandolin1

March 3 2011, 17:44:50 UTC 6 years ago

I still think Quentin being from Canada and the King and Queen holding court in Toronto are somehow related. I don't see them answering Sylvester's request for just anyone.

And the super sappy part of me was so happy to see Amandine come back. I just couldn't imagine anyone completely abandoning their child.

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kyrielle

March 4 2011, 23:42:57 UTC 6 years ago

...you and me both, and now it is so OBVIOUS. True or not, it's so obvious, but I think yes. Oh my.

I wanted to reread the series anyway, just for the fun of it, so this makes a good excuse. :)

liret

March 3 2011, 18:42:29 UTC 6 years ago

Toby actually guesses Quentin's accent as specifically 'Toronto' the first time they meet. It makes me have Thoughts.

Of course, most of my theories prove to be totally wrong.

swevene

March 3 2011, 18:43:24 UTC 6 years ago

I agree. I'm pretty sure they're his parents (and have thought that ever since I learned the King and Queen were in Toronto).

But maybe that's just wishful thinking, since he is my faaaaavourite.

rymenhild

March 3 2011, 18:47:04 UTC 6 years ago

Well, what do we expect from an incognito prince? Perfect manners, perfect honor, desire to be a hero, surprise at encountering the hoi polloi, gradual mellowing into someone who's enjoying being treated normally, right? That's Quentin to a T.

Besides, there's a scene in Local Habitation where Toby says something like, "I order you not to die!" and Quentin looks amused and mutters, "Are you pulling rank on me?" I bet no one ever did that before. Yeah, he's crown prince.

amandolin1

March 3 2011, 19:06:00 UTC 6 years ago

I had forgotten that part! I just assumed it was because Toby of all people was giving orders.

You have to wonder about a monarch who sends their son to be raised around Sylvester, though, given how people see him.

lyssabard

March 3 2011, 19:18:34 UTC 6 years ago

Oh man, I feel like an idiot for missing that! But that's gonna be so awesome when Toby figures it out/finds out. :)

sheistheweather

March 3 2011, 19:23:36 UTC 6 years ago

O.O I missed that too.

sumeria

March 3 2011, 20:06:54 UTC 6 years ago

Oh, he totally is. That said, I'm pretty sure he himself doesn't know; isn't he in the kind of fosterage where he doesn't get told who his actual parents are till he leaves it?

vixyish

March 3 2011, 20:24:30 UTC 6 years ago

Not quite. In Seanan's post about fosterage, she never said there was a kind where *you* don't know who your parents are. She said there's a kind of fosterage (blind fosterage) where *everyone else* doesn't know who your parents are.

So to relate to that post, it would've been "This is Quentin. He lives here now." But not "You're Quentin. You live here now."

sumeria

March 3 2011, 20:43:02 UTC 6 years ago

Yeah, I was thinking of something from R&R, not from the fosterage post.

Just went back to check book, and was totally misreading it.

Conclusion: you are entirely correct.

swevene

March 3 2011, 20:27:05 UTC 6 years ago

I think it's the kind of fosterage where no one around him except Sylvester knows who his parents are. In Rosemary and Rue, I think it was implied that he definitely knew who his parents are, and if he hadn't grown up with them he wouldn't have the Ontario accent.

sumeria

March 3 2011, 20:45:06 UTC 6 years ago

Yeah, I was operating under a misreading. I am now covered in shame.

(Hilariously, that "are you pulling rank on me?" stuck me as damn odd at the time because while *I* thought (and still think) that he's got to be the High King's son, I didn't think he did.)

vixyish

March 3 2011, 21:26:03 UTC 6 years ago

That line *still* makes me giggle. :)

seanan_mcguire

March 3 2011, 19:08:27 UTC 6 years ago

Amandine is fun to write. In a, you know, "holy cheese you're crazy AND powerful" sort of a way.

jhyanmar

March 3 2011, 19:28:06 UTC 6 years ago

That's been the guess that my wife and I have since we first discovered where the High Couple lived. Even if he's not, he'd have to be descended from someone at their Court (unless Toby's completely wrong), which means definite Connections.

Of course, that leads to the question of why Rayseline thinks his parents have "no power" in Shadowed Hills. She is, of course, crazy, and may be entirely wrong, or not know.

droewyn

March 3 2011, 23:41:47 UTC 6 years ago

My vote is for "not know". Luna might, but Sylvester wouldn't go spilling state secrets to the equivalent of a teenager, especially to one he knew had The Crazy, if not how far she'd gone. He never named her his heir, after all.

jhyanmar

March 3 2011, 23:47:18 UTC 6 years ago

Which makes one wonder just how much of her jealousy might eventually become self-fulfilling prophecy, since we've seen Rayseline basically flip out, and Toby's already been promoted once...

amazon_syren

March 3 2011, 19:46:28 UTC 6 years ago

This. Definitely this about Quentin's posssible parentage. Um, hi. :-)

themysteriousg

March 10 2011, 03:33:09 UTC 6 years ago

Late to the game. Had to reread and finally finished today.

OMG YES!! Quentin+VIP.