This sort of gave me pause. Because, see, I got the new My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic gift set for Christmas (and I love it very, very much), and it included the current ruler of Ponyland, Princess Celestine. Now, Princess Celestine does all the things one associates with a ruler. She rules, for one thing. She also controls the magic of the day (her sister gets the magic of night, and since My Little Ponies are primarily diurnal, she's kinda pissy about that). She makes laws, passes judgments, and generally keeps things functional. Not easy! But she, and her sister, remain princesses. Meanwhile, back in the generation one Dream Castle, Queen Majesty is laughing her blue-spangled ass off.
(Interestingly enough, one of the unicorns in the new line, Rarity, looks almost exactly like Majesty. Only she's not even a princess. But I digress.)
Where have all the queens gone? Ozma was never Princess of Oz; she was always Empress. Alice didn't become a Princess of Wonderland; she became a genuine Queen. "Princess" was never a career aspiration, not like it is now. There were princesses, but they were almost always presented as being prissy and overly-concerned with their own appearance or dignity. The Princess Ponies freaked out when they got dirty, while most of the other Ponies just said "Whatever" and got back to work. That recurred throughout a lot of children's media. If you were a princess, you didn't do a damn thing. You let other people do it for you.
Most of the early Disney girls found their stories ending as soon as they became/were revealed as princesses. Sleeping Beauty liked living in the woods with her animal friends. Cinderella and Snow White both had lives before their princes came along. They weren't necessarily good lives, what with the homicidal mother figures and all, but they got to do things, beyond getting married and swanning off into an endless world of merchandising.
Now there are no queens. When Disney makes a sequel, it's almost always set either before the first film ended (as with the two Aladdin followups), or the now-married original princess is still a princess, even if the king and queen are never shown (Prince Eric is still credited as such in The Little Mermaid II, implying that Ariel remains a princess). The only confirmed crownings I can find are Kida of Atlantis, who is queen in her direct-to-DVD sequel, and Rapunzel, although they haven't had time to make a still-the-princess sequel to Tangled. Characters with no visible claim to a throne are turned into princesses constantly, like Barbie and Dora the Explorer will be happier now that they have to wear (mor) uncomfortable shoes. It's like the ultimate goal has become "all the bling, none of the legislating."
I don't get it. When did we decide we'd rather have prettiness and pearls than power? When did we decide that our little girls needed to be put in holding patterns, unable to take the throne of self-determination, but too elevated to play in the mud and get their hands dirty? I mean, I call myself a pretty pink princess. I don't think there's anything wrong with aspiring to princess-dom. But...it seems really strange to me that no one's looking past that to the throne, or encouraging it in little girls. Majesty and Frostine were quite happy as queens. I bet Celestine and her sister would be, too.
Just a thought.
(*Some people will say that you can't have a strong female character in a board game. But as someone who was a little girl and played Candy Land? I always saw Queen Frostine as being pretty much in charge. Remember, kids narrate games to themselves, and when Frostine was on the board, there was no question about who was the boss. The boss was the blue-haired lady who would kick your ass if you crossed her.)
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December 29 2010, 04:48:43 UTC 6 years ago
...though that entire series is full of strong female characters: Honor Harrington (Duchess, Admiral, Steadholder), Eloise Pritchard (President of Haven), Michelle Henke (Honor's best friend, cousin to the queen, Countess, and Rear Admiral), and many, many minor characters, such as Honor's mother Allison, anti-slavery activist Catherine Montaigne, etc. Even the female villains are strong women, not mere femme fatales.
I rather like Queen Berry of Torch from the same series, too.
December 29 2010, 05:46:04 UTC 6 years ago
But mostly I just wanted to fangirlsquee OMG!SOMEONE ELSE LIKES HONOR, you know what I mean.
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December 29 2010, 05:51:15 UTC 6 years ago
The last confrontation in the book, and entirely Buttercup's victory. I cheered, and still do, every time.
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Only I don't actually believe that.
(I realize that in text you cannot see my expression or hear my tone of voice, so let me make it clear that this is tongue firmly in cheek, yes?)
In other musings, I would love to read what you have to say on the musical Into the Woods.
(seriously, I would read that and probably bookmark it as well)
Oops, edited for a post script, sorry! Anyone read the Hawk and Fisher series by Simon Green? Talk about a princess who can kick it and take names, yes indeedy.
December 29 2010, 20:39:50 UTC 6 years ago
It's a useless skill.
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December 29 2010, 10:11:42 UTC 6 years ago
Sadly, I can't think of any more offhand.
I may have mentioned this before, but I can't recall: http://www.amazon.com/MachoPoni-Pra
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I'm sorry, the sparkly gown thing just kind of reminded me... >_>
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December 29 2010, 14:20:24 UTC 6 years ago
I suspect this may be similar to the process by which denim canvas dungarees, worn by college students to show “solidarity with the workers” (whom they looked down upon as rednecks, blue-collar grunges or, y' know, ethnic) transformed by the next decade into, first, works of art (0:45 - 1:10) then into expensively marketed 'designer jeans' that no sharecropper would ever own. “Power to the people,” you bet.
Just so, “power perceived is power achieved,” and today's young girls not only do not have to work at taking command, they're handed the fruits of entitlement and prestige from Day One. Naturally the result is corruption and sloth, over-sexualized twelve-year olds who can barely spell their own weirdly-misspelled names. In this they truly are princesses, as such often were: Unschooled, overprivileged, their horizons narrowing with every passing year. They are not fit to be Queens. The best they can hope for is to be - again - trophy wives to today's merchant princes… but few will reach that pinnacle; most will simply deteriorate. So it goes.
p.s. How do you do! Pardon my dropping in…
December 29 2010, 20:41:09 UTC 6 years ago
Gleh.
December 29 2010, 15:22:07 UTC 6 years ago
But to become Queen is not just to grow up, it's to grow past up to that point where you're the uppest there is left. That didn't happen to my own mother until she was 46, and her college roommate is retired and still has a mom around. She is about the last person you'd think of as a "princess", but still.
In the days when 50 was old and lots of people didn't make it to that, maybe it wasn't such a reach, but with today's lifespans, imagining themselves to be the oldest generation is something most girls, or even most young women, or even youngish women who used to be called middle aged like me, aren't likely to encompass.
What's missing, I think, is the middle stage. Princess Errant. Why should princes be the only ones to go on quests and have adventures besides falling in love?
December 29 2010, 20:41:36 UTC 6 years ago
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December 29 2010, 15:53:30 UTC 6 years ago
While I don't mean to be an apologist, and yes, being a Queen is way cooler, I feel slightly obliged to note that, at least on the Disney side, princesses have evolved somewhat. I would point to Belle and Tiana in particular as strong women who aren't wholly defined by their relationships. Is there really any doubt at all as to who's in charge at Tiana's Place?
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December 29 2010, 17:25:24 UTC 6 years ago
Then I discovered that what I really wanted to be was a Heinlein Woman, with flaming red hair and an IQ of about 220 - able to out-shoot the bad guys, solve differential equations in her head, pilot a spaceship, speak 37 languages, figure-skate, manage finances, repair any machine with a hairpin, colonize a hostile planet, and rescue kittens, all while pregnant - and impress men so much that they'd do the cooking and child-care while she was busy putting the Universe to rights.
In the end, of course, I achieved neither. (Well, except for the "fixing machines" part.)
December 29 2010, 20:42:23 UTC 6 years ago
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December 29 2010, 17:53:49 UTC 6 years ago
There may be a different way to see that: As a corollary to D Adam's famous assertion that those who seek power are the very ones who should not be allowed to have it. The sheer aggression, bloodthirst and naked, gotta-stay-hungry ambition that makes a queen - or a female CEO, or a female President, as the case may be - causes that person to be, well, not very nice. Not a healthy role model for someone who has to function in workaday society.
stakebait said, being a Princess is fun, and you can be beloved and gracious and generally do well. Being Queen - staying Queen - turns you into L Carroll's Red Queen (“Off with his head!”)
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December 29 2010, 18:06:30 UTC 6 years ago
The whole evil stepmother thing has a root. Many of the early fairy tales had evil parents, but in a desire to sell stories to the German middle class, the brothers Grimm altered the story. Ones biological parents are loving & kind, but one never knows what one will get from a step parent. Cherish and obey your parents, as they would never send a hunter to kill you and cut out your heart.
Personally, being a red-head who grew up on Heinlein heroines, I always liked the notion of Empress of the Universe. I don't actually believe one has to become unreasonably ruthless to keep a position of power. Yes, sometimes you're going to have to do something that's not very nice. Someone has to make those decisions. I'd rather have it be someone who hates doing it every time.
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We need more kick ass women!
then again, I'm guessing that guys DO appear to be that emasculated and threatened by strong women characters.
*rolls eyes*
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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/l
It seems that young girls are now identifying with female rock stars. I did try researching Dafna Lemish's statement about young girls, but came up with no reference other than the citing of it in the article.
March 15 2011, 19:29:13 UTC 6 years ago
This article leaves me cold, and not in a good way.
February 18 2011, 18:10:37 UTC 6 years ago
I admit I have several princess characters. But I have queens as well, and none of them are evil.
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Awesome.
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