Seanan McGuire (seanan_mcguire) wrote,
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A few quick points...

So the discussion on my latest book piracy post is fascinating, and I fully intend to answer comments. However, right now, I'm not feeling terribly awesome, so I'm going to take some cold medication and go lay down. I just wanted to address a few high-level points first. Forgive the brevity, I really feel like crap.

Point the First: "Not everyone who illegally downloads your book would have bought it, so you shouldn't act like they would have."

True! That being said, I know enough people who have illegally downloaded books and then bought them, or have told me to my face (or via email) that they were planning to buy the book, only then got it for free, that I feel some consideration of the number of illegal copies is warranted. Just going off what I do know, I tend to assume about one person in ten represents a "lost sale." This accounts for new readers only, not people downloading copies of books they already own.

Point the Second: Downloading copies of books you already own is a morally gray area.

True. I completely understand and sympathize with people who download virtual copies of books they already own. Unfortunately, a) I don't own the e-book rights to my books right now, and thus can't say "sure, have a PDF with proof of purchase," and b) the methods for getting those downloads are non-legal. There's not a private literary speakeasy where you have to send in a photo of yourself with your legal physical copy before you get the download link. And so while I can understand the moral ambiguity of it all, I can't endorse the practice.

Point the Third: It's not piracy, it's copyright infringement.

Okay, true. For precision of language, I should call it copyright infringement. But the people who sometimes post intentionally inflammatory things on message boards aren't actually trolls, they're just being mean. In some cases, the prevailing language of the land is going to win out over precision. I apologize for any confusion.

Point the Fourth: "Does this mean you don't like me because I initially read your book in a sub-legal format?"

Did you buy the book? I mean, really, that's where my concern is here: In whether I can feed the cats. I first discovered the X-Men because my friend Lucy had an older brother who wasn't careful with his comics, and I didn't pay for those, either. As I said above, I can't condone illegal downloading, but once you've paid for the material, I lose all personal animosity.

Point the Fifth: Books and music aren't the same.

Most the research on illegal downloads has been in the music arena, and the numbers aren't the same. According to iTunes, the single song I have listened to the most often is the cover of "Livin' La Vida Loca" by Spork, which I have listened to 342 times. The single book I have read the most often is IT, by Stephen King, which I have read, if guessing generously, eighty times in the last twenty years. Many people don't re-read, or do so only sparingly. So saying that illegal downloads increase sales when you're only looking at music is like saying that breeding mice increases the elephant population.

Point the Sixth: Cory Doctorow does it.

Cory Doctorow is also recognized by my spellchecker, which doesn't recognize my name. He chose to distribute over the Internet, and it worked out awesomely for him. He's also doing Internet-savvy fiction, with a keen edge of interest for the online crowd. I write urban fantasies about women with silly names. We don't have the same target audience; it's mice and elephants again.

I'll come back and participate in the discussion more one on one later. Now? DayQuil and sleep.
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Okay I can't quite leave it at that.

Look, despite our wildest fantasies, I know *just* enough genre authors, niche musicians, and artists with devoted but small fans to know that most artistic types don't make a lot of money at what they do, EVEN IF it's fairly popular and EVEN IF they can sell it.

Nearly all genre authors I have met, know of, or have heard about have to hold down a day job.

Nearly all the ones I know about that don't can do it because they did something else first that provided a little nest egg.

Some people think theft (and I consider downloading an illegal copy of a book a form of theft--get into the technicalities of this with me if you dare, I have a law degree and I know how to parse legalese better than nearly all laypeople, but I also know how to call hiding behind the technicalities of language what it is, which is bullshit) doesn't matter if you're stealing from someone--especially a big faceless company--who's already making a fuckton of money, so what do they notice or care?

I've met people who feel JUSTIFIED in doing so because companies are big and evil (and frankly they often are IMO) and so they're sticking it to The Man.

Most genre authors? they aren't wealthy. So you're not just stealing from big anonymous book sellers and publishers. You're stealing from people who really need it to keep doing what you presumably want them to do, which is produce written material for books.
I am not The Man. And honestly, since I have that day job you mentioned, stealing my books is really stealing from a) my future ability to publish books, and b) my cats.

My cats are hungry cats.
madfilkentist's links highlighted these posts of yours for me.

First, I'm on your side here. You've made some things much clearer to me. I don't d/l illegal copies, but I know many who do.

Second -- I don't know if I'm misreading your reply to aliciaaudrey's second post just above, but it sounds as if you think she's opposed to your POV. I don't think she is: quite the opposite. Did you mean to post this reply to a different comment?

Just my $0.0000002 worth.
I was agreeing with her, not defending my POV. :) Promise.
I understood that she was agreeing with me, but I appreciate the sentiment.