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Saturday book club post.

It seems like there are books that everybody hears about. I don't mean books like Pride and Prejudice or The Great Gatsby, where you would have to be either dead or completely unfamiliar with English literature to have missed them; I mean books like World War Z, which even my non-zombie lovin' friends have heard of, or Twilight, which, God, you couldn't miss without stranding yourself on a desert island for the foreseeable future.

Because every group is essentially a sociological tide pool, shifting slightly whenever the tide comes in but still cross-contaminating itself at a remarkable rate, we also tend to have a somewhat distorted view of "everybody." I bet if you polled a sample size of, say, the readership of this journal, you'd discover that Rosemary and Rue was one of the best-known books of 2009. Why? Because I wrote it, and talk about it constantly, and you read this journal, hence exposing you to it on a constant basis. I'm a literary pathogen!

On a more localized scale, we loan books to our friends, talk books up to our friends, and constantly infect each other with our literary passions. In the last year, I have caused my friends to read I Am Not a Serial Killer, Mr. Shivers, A Madness of Angels, the complete works of Kelley Armstrong, The Mermaid's Madness, The Enchantment Emporium, and Your Hate Mail Will Be Graded. These aren't the only good books I've read in the last year; they're just the ones new enough to still be available, and to have excited me with their sudden existence.

So here is today's challenge: Infect us with books we may not have heard of, but which are so damn AWESOME that it verges on a crime that more people don't know about them. Go for out-of-print things (that's why libraries and used bookstores exist), or the first books in series that started eight years ago. Bring enlightenment to the heathen, in the form of literary smallpox.

I'll start with five of my favorites, books I honestly think everyone should read (whether you enjoy them is up to you):

Hellspark, by Janet Kagen.
Mermaid's Song, by Alida Van Gorres.
Emergence, by David Palmer.
The Strange Adventures of Rangergirl, by Tim Pratt.
Paper Moon, by Joe David Brown.

Authors, feel free to pimp your own work here; just get the word out, and let's see what we're not reading!
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Trying not to repeat some of the recs I've already seen and would second:

Pretty much anything by Sydney J. Van Scyoc.

P.K. McAllister/Paula King, The Cloudships of Orion trilogy

Sarah Zettel's _Fool's War_

C.S. Friedman's _This Alien Shore_.

eluki bes shahar _Hellflower_
Also, Katharine Kerr, _Resurrection_. Rabbi Akiva and the Devil debating alternate universe theory in a coffee shop is made of win!

seanan_mcguire

7 years ago

Some books from my Books Read lists and the notes I made about them.

Teen
karenhealey "Guardian of the Dead" - Here are some of my thoughts on this supernatural adventure set in New Zealand.

Mayra Lazara Dole "down to the bone" is the hands down best teen lesbian story I've ever read and my favorite book I read in 2009. - Excellent story about a Latina lesbian trying to deal with being a lesbian, a girlfriend whose family is trying to make her straight, and her own family’s reaction to it. Laura is a really interesting character – even when she’s snapping at the friends who stand by her or struggling to make herself something she’s not, she’s very sympathetic and still vibrant with personality. I love her, and her best friend Soli, and the way family isn’t just blood, it’s chosen. I really want to read more by this author.

Tanita S. Davis "A La Carte" - Great book threaded through with really interesting recipes. About a teen, Lainey, who wants to be a tv chef because there aren’t enough black chefs or vegetarian chefs. Her relationship with her mother is complicated and the boy she loves twists her up. She struggles with her weight and her hair and finding balance in her life and finding ways to achieve her goals and it is really, truly incredible, the family love and complications. Her relationship with her grandmother in particular is wonderful, and the way they share recipes really quite touching.

Kelly Parra "Invisible Touch" - I love this book so, so much. The main character, Kara, is fantastic, flawed and friendly and funny and absolutely amazing. I love the fantasy aspect of it, with her visions and the way she tries to solve them and help people, and the romance is amazing.

Adult

Alice Henderson "Voracious" - Creepy, delicious horror in the woods story with a kick ass female protagonist who isn’t just a victim or a villain but an awesome, layered women.

I've been curious about "Guardian of the Dead" since I lived in New Zealand for a while so books set there tend to get my attention.

seanan_mcguire

7 years ago

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Oh, I always loved the Two Princesses of Bamarre, growing up. I should go back and read it myself, come to think...

seanan_mcguire

7 years ago

Mirabile by Janet Kagan
Summers at Castle Auburn by Sharon Shinn
Beauty by Robin McKinley
And some YA goodness that I loved but which is now mostly out of print:
Magic at Wychwood and The Hornet's Nest by Sally Watson
Beauty by Robin McKinley

One of my favorite books ever!

seanan_mcguire

7 years ago

herefox

7 years ago

amanuensis1

7 years ago

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Oh, I love the Mark Del Francos.
The Spirit Ring, by Lois McMaster Bujold. I list it mainly because of a review of The Curse of Chalion which includes the comment, "You can only wonder why Bujold hasn't tried her hand at fantasy before."

The Summer Country, by James Hetley. An interesting look at the myths of the British Isles, and what life might be like if the bloodlines continued into the present day. (Warning: rape and torture.)
Excellent.
The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch
Awesome.
Well, they're just now back in print, but Sharon Lee & Steve Miller's Liaden Universe books are the ones we've been infecting people with the most. My wife & I have two copies of all of their older books, and at the moment, every copy is out on loan because we handed them to people and told them they had to read the books.

Also, apologies for possibly hijacking the topic a bit, but does anyone have recommendations for F/SF books for a 10 year old girl? One of my co-workers has a daughter who likes SF & Fantasy, but since her mother doesn't, the co-worker's at a loss for figuring out what to get her daughter to read next.
"Podkayne of Mars" or others of Heinlein's juvies like "Farmer In The Sky".
Lester Del Ray also wrote a bunch.
"Spacial Delivery" by Dickson.
"The Golden Compass" etc.
Stuff by Tamora Pierce.
Stuff by Dianna Wynn Jones.
"Keys To The Kingdom" by Garth Nix

Now... some of these have a little sex or violence, so you should advise parents who might care about exposure to such to read them first before turning their kids loose on them. Most of these are targeted at kids a few years older but I personally would have no issue handing any of these to my own daughter at 10. YYMV.

tsgeisel

7 years ago

seanan_mcguire

7 years ago

groblek

7 years ago

When I have more time I will try to think of something more obscure, but for the moment, I have to mention a book I just finished and hadn't heard of until the author was at an event I went to, even though the book has been out since January (?). Hearts at Stake by Alyxandra Harvey - YA, full of snark, I read it in a day. LOVED IT and the second in the series comes out in June.
Oh, nice! Thank you.
Bridge of Birds by Barry Hughart
The Red Magician by Lisa Goldstein
Wizard of the Pigeonsby Megan Lindholm
Changer by Jane Lindskold
Firelord by Parke Godwin
Excellent.
Enchantress From the Stars, Sylvia Louise Engdahl. It’s one of those books that takes the line between “sci-fi” and “fantasy” and gleefully chucks it out the window to create a story that’s half both and all good.

Diane Duane’s stuffhas already been mentioned, along with Robin McKinley’s The Blue Sword and The Hero and the Crown.

Two re-tellings of Tam Lin are on my list: Tam Lin, by Pamela Dean (which convinced me to never be a Classics major and always be on the look-out for fae), and Fire and Hemlock by Diana Wynne Jones.

Actually, pretty much anything by DWJ. Howl’s Moving Castle is pretty darn awesome.

For non-SF/F, Fugitive Pieces by Anne Michaels. Not too old, but not widely known either. The writing is some of the most beautiful I’ve ever read, and has influenced my own greatly (and I thank the English teacher who made us read it every time I read it).

If we’re allowed to pimp AWESOME non-fiction too? Casanova Was a Book Lover (which may be impossible to find), by John Maxwell Hamilton. Blue Like Jazz is mostly memoir, but I think it’s absolutely brilliant, and the writing style is beautiful and very, very Portland (a minus, in some people’s books, I know).

Um. I think I’ve tl;dr’d enough.
Oh, yeah, Tam Lin by Pamela Dean is so fabulous.

seanan_mcguire

7 years ago

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Ah, lovely!
My Father's Dragon by Ruth Stiles Gannett
Spellbound by Ru Emerson
The Genetic General by Gordon Dickson
Healer's War by Elizabeth Ann Scarborough
The Human Ape by Jack Cohen (non fic)
A Thousand Miles up the Nile by Amelia Edwards (non fic)

anything about Ancient Egypt...
Have you read Lindskold's The Buried Pyramid?

martianmooncrab

7 years ago

janetmiles

7 years ago

seanan_mcguire

7 years ago

"Songs of Earth And Power" (and omnibus of "The Infinity Concerto" and "The Serpent Mage") by Greg Bear. It's a fantasy book about magic and fairies and is every bit as awesome as his SF titles. Yes, it is /that/ Greg Bear.

"Armor" by John Steakley. Strip the romanticism out of "Starship Trooper" and add a liberal dollop of "Ender's Game" and you get this... Damn.

"Nift The Lean: Raiders Of The Infernal Domains" by Michael Shea. Back before Moorcock wrecked it, there was this stuff called 'Barbarian Fantasy' and it had good and bad examples (Conan, Gor respectively.) This book is Shea picking up the pieces and building a great set of stories to go with it.

"The Well At The World's End" by William Morris. This book is in the public domain and available from the people at Project Gutenberg. It's really awesome and important because it represents one of the first works of modern fantasy (where the world in which the story takes place is represented as being a fully real and actualized world.)

I also thing we've forgotten a lot of the old masters like Dunsany and Bierce. Thankfully these folks are old enough that you can get public-domain etexts of their stuff.
Nice ones.
Emergence, definitely. And I must try hunting down the sequel.

The Girl With the Silver Eyes by Willo Davis Roberts
The Ogre Downstairs by Diana Wymme Jones despite my fondness for the Chrestomanci books I think this is actually my favourite of hers.
Replay by Ken Grimwood. I overheard a bookdealer at a con recommending it to another shopper so bought it and was totally not disappointed.
Lifter by Crawford Killian. I loved the execution of the idea so much, and his consideration of the impact of everyone learning to fly.

My hottest recommendation however is definitely Wrapt in Crystal by Sharon Shinn, a book that I enjoyed so much that as soon as I finished it I packaged it up and posted it to a friend to read because I had to have someone to share it with.
Oh, wow...The Girl With the Silver Eyes is one of my favorite books ever!

oreouk

7 years ago

stakebait

7 years ago

oreouk

7 years ago

seanan_mcguire

7 years ago

"Songs Of Earth And Power" (omnibus of "The Infinity Concerto" and "The Serpent Mage") by Greg Bear. Magic and fairies and all the Sturm und Drang that we love from Bear's SF.

"Armor" by John Steakley. "Starship Troopers" - romanticism + "Ender's Game" = this...

"Nift The Lean: Raiders Of The Infernal Domains" by Michael Shea. Picking up the pieces left after Moorcock blew up the Barbarian Fantasy genre and making something wonderful from them.

"The Well At The World's End" by William Morris. Possibly the first modern fantasy novel. Get etexts of it from Project Gutenberg.

Anything you can get your paws on by Lord Dunsany. The last pre-modern fantasy fiction master. Again, lots of his stuff is public domain, and available fromt he wonderful folks at Project Gutenberg.
Whoops, doubled! But still good recommendations.
The Practice Effect - David Brin
(Currently out of print, but a reprinting is coming soon.)
Elantris - Brandon Sanderson
(A different type of Zombie story.)
Telzey Amberdon - James H Schmidt
(available for free download from Baen free library at http://www.webscription.net/p-411-telzey-amberdon.aspx )
The scarlet Pimpernel - Baroness Orczy
(on project gutenberg or librivox.org I always start a reading of the series with 'a tale of 2 cities' (Dickens) first. )

I thought about listing Elantris, but then I figured Sanderson is too well-known. I really loved the Mistborn books, but there's a special place in my heart for Elantris. I was thrilled to read a guy who could write decent, strong women in fantasy, and very happy for him that he got the Wheel of Time gig.

cleothyla

7 years ago

seanan_mcguire

7 years ago

(Hellspark! Eee! Love that book so much.)

Hm, if I had to make a short list of "I bet not many people have read these and they're so damn good" books:

Sylvia Louise Engdahl, Enchantress From the Stars
Ron Miller, Palaces and Prisons
Teresa Denys, The Silver Devil
Eva Ibbotson, Which Witch?
Katie Waitman, The Merro Tree

Awesome, thank you.

janetmiles

7 years ago

amanuensis1

7 years ago

Forgotten Beasts of Eld and The Gandalara Cycle are my out of print recommendations. Both are fantastic. Eld is beautiful and magical and left me dying for more. Gandalara has a bit of a silly ending, but the story arc was more than worth the read. I still love it.

Current... Eyes of Crow. I cried reading this book.
The Forgotten Beasts of Eld... YES. I must've read that book a hundred times when I was young. I re-read it not too long ago and it still holds all the allure it did when I was a teen.

miintikwa

7 years ago

seanan_mcguire

7 years ago

Hellspark and Emergence I learned about in college. I'm honestly not overly enamoured of Hellspark, although it's on my list to re-read, because I think I might like it better now. Emergence I adore, and have since the first chapter, and always will.

Rangergirl I picked up based on probably interest before reading you talk about it, but reading you talk about it encouraged me to bump it up in the queue, and I enjoyed it very much.

Thanks to your talking them up, I won used copies of Mermaid's Song and Paper Moon, although I haven't yet read them.

So yes, it works!

The books I buy for people, because I think everyone should read them:

Tam Lin, by Pamela Dean
Expendable, by James Alan Gardner
Halfway Human, by Carolyn Ives Gilman
Godstalk, by PC Hodgell

Emergence would be bought and given to everyone, except I haven't even found a replacement for my split-in-two copy. *grump*

This works in more than one way -- all four of my books are available and in print, currently. For years, that was NOT true of three of them.
Awesome.
The Lastborn of Elvinwood by Linda Haldeman

English actor Ian James follows the vicar and a local estate agent into the woods near his village one night, finds himself in a faerie court right out of Shakespeare, and in return for trespassing is recruited to save the faerie folk from diminishing into nonexistence. This is an utterly charming and severely overlooked fantasy with elements of Gilbert & Sullivan, Peter Pan, Arthurian magic, English-village mystery, and the lightest touch of low-key romance. If you like Esther Friesner and/or Patricia Wrede, you'll likely fall in love with Haldeman; this is one of three book-length fantasies she published in the 1980s (if memory serves, she subsequently lost a battle with cancer). Haldeman also penned one of my all-time favorite Dickens-riffs, a lovely short story called "The Marley Case", in which we learn just what happened to Scrooge's partner.

The Butterfly Kid by Chester Anderson

Hippie SF in which the author, being naturally suspicious of first-person SF novels wherein the narrator's name isn't the author's name, presents a novel starring hippie writer Chester Anderson (and his real-life friend and fellow writer, Michael Kurland). Giant blue crustaceans are invading from outer space (and showing up in Greenwich Village), and the solution involves Reality Pills and a boy who makes butterflies. Source of one of my all-time favorite signature lines: "My mind very carefully boggled." Mary-Sue gimmick notwithstanding, this is funny and fun -- and, impressively, well thought out besides.

Windmaster's Bane, Tom Deitz

This also dates from back in the 1980s, and begins a series set in rural Georgia -- and in the lands of the Daoine Sidhe of Irish legend, for the barriers between worlds are growing frail, and at times the two realms bleed together. Our hero is David "Mad Davy" Sullivan, who's been interested in Irish folklore long since, and leaps in with both feet when he accidentally invokes the Sight. Deitz writes his Sidhe characters with equal measures of authenticity and common sense, and the countryside settings are vividly detailed. This is closer to high fantasy than to today's "paranormal" genre, and I count it among the very best modern spins on Irish folklore.
Those are some lovely ones.

filkferengi

7 years ago

djonn

7 years ago

filkferengi

7 years ago

I think my books are sort-of-kind-of-ish qualified for this. They're more like books you might have heard of, but haven't actually picked up yet, and totally should pick up because they rock.

I think Steph Swainston's The Year of Our War is/was pretty popular, since I know it won an award or two, but I haven't seen it on shelves anywhere since I picked it up, so I'm going to include it. It's fantasy novel meets Starship Troopers meets deist philosophy meets an acid trip. It's amazing.

John Parker's Once a Runner was out of print for a long time, but someone reissued it to the masses. In my trackie world, it's the Bible, but I don't think it's quite so widely read in the rest of the world. You should read it, though, if you've ever wondered about those crazy guys doing interval workers and striders on your community track. Nothing explains 'em better than this book.

My massive guilty pleasure: the DMC novels by Rick Shelley. They're military sci-fi, and they can get a little predictable, but I find a certain authenticity in their... Army-ness. Shelley, who I'm pretty sure was in the service, has a very good grasp on the culture and the lingo.
Very cool, thank you!
I adore Mermaid's Song. I need to find another copy of that.

These are just coming back into print but they are just awesome. My hubby infected me with these.

Bureau 13
Doomsday Exam
Full Moonster.
They are all written by Nick Pollota(sp) and he revised them and are re-publishing them. You can find them on Amazon. But he's also added some new ones.

Damn Nation(in the Bureau 13 universe)
That Darn Squid God (Steampunk-esque)

I haven't finished either of them yet, but I'm liking them so far.
Adding:

The Perilous Gard by Elizabeth Marie Pope
Octagon Magic by Andre Norton
Steel Magic by Andre Norton
Fur Magic by Andre Norton

The Perilous Gard is one of my favorites.

djonn

7 years ago

seanan_mcguire

7 years ago

And now for something slightly different: herewith two really obscure and much older titles that I found at various times in libraries, checked out and read repeatedly, and hope someday to acquire permanent copies thereof.

The Amazing Vacation, Dan Wickenden

Children's fantasy, post-Eager but pre-Norton, involving a brother and sister who find another world on the other side of a window in the house they're visiting one summer. Lots of clever wordplay and high adventure, a Fretful Porpentine, a friendly witch, and a rhyming spell that's stuck in my mind ever since:

Entry, kentry, cutry, corn
Apple seed and apple thorn,
Wire, briar, limber lock,
A witch and griffins in a flock....


Terror Wears a Feathered Cloak, Thelmar Wyche Crawford

This one's mystery/suspense rather than fantasy; it would be called YA nowadays, being a thriller in a mode halfway between Nancy Drew and Madeleine L'Engle. A young woman and her friends are on a tour of Yucatan when they get tangled up in a conspiracy whereby denizens of a lost Mayan city hope to secure a place in the modern world. This sounds way over-the-top, but the execution is remarkably convincing both as thriller and as lost-city yarn. I didn't learn till long afterward that the author wrote several other books featuring the same core characters, but I've never seen copies of any of the others.
Awesome!

filkferengi

7 years ago

Read me! Read me!
Think the three musketeers with ghosts and strange magic. I'm on the same list at DAW with Seanan, and I to write dark fantasy, set in a city not unlike 17th century Paris, with swordfights and spies and politics and star-crossed love. And rain.
Kari
And you do it very well! I quite enjoyed it.

la_marquise_de_

7 years ago

seanan_mcguire

7 years ago

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